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  3 sponsors Microsoft's MSN Messenger
Time: 12:35 EST/17:35 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

3UK announced that it is sponsoring MSN Messenger in the UK and is the first mobile operator to use the MSN Messenger Theme Pack product as a brand out-reach device. 3's brand personality comes alive in the form of Critters, 3's cartoon characters created by Meme Digital, in a variety of ways - as wallpapers, emoticons and brand new animated "Winks". The partnership, planned and negotiated by MindShare and mOne, coincides with the new release of MSN Messenger version 7, which allows users to communicate using animations as well as text and pictures. The new animated option fits well with the playful style of 3's Critters and enters the 3 brand into the communication culture of millions of MSN fanatics, a great place to connect with young, tech-savvy people.

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#1 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 5/25/2005 2:34:31 PM
A little off topic, but...

Is there a better SIPPS client than Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) ? We use Windows Messenger and SIPPS for internal IM. I don't mind internal IM but the Windows Messenger client SUCKS!

TL

#2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 5/26/2005 12:31:50 AM
#1, I would recommend MS Office "Communicator" as a client to Live Communications Server 2005 SP1.

We have deployed this, following participation in its BETA.

Among all of the features that one would expect to be supported, is very tight "Advanced Presence" it reads public free/busy; provides for integration to virtual PBX Systems - as with a VOIP solution, and above all - it's encrypted. We use our own CA and place all communications in a wrapper that is securely published. Automatic settings detection for external systems is provided for by these means - the host being tls.<domainname.com>:443
//Read, protocoal, domain, port//

Finally, native integration of the SIP client's Advanced Presence awareness and Windows Sharepoint Technologies are also supported - you can create some very powerful operating environments in this way - using XML and some of the simplest dev tools I've seen to accomplish some very powerful solutions.

*The old NM collab stack is still use, so be sure to have a fully UPnP compliant NAT solution at the edge to support remote T.120 dependent features like applications and desktop sharing.
**Be prepared to support NM video, voice and data stack in similar ways - 1720, 1721, etc... to whatever gateway you will use, or individual clients [yeah, I know, that part bites...]
***The entire BETA community I saw was livid over that one....favoring instead the connection methods used in Live Meeting and MSN Messenger over NetMeeting's old stack. We built a stack rule around this and added client sets and also our MTU/MCU's by bolting it to an old implementation of Exchange Conferencing Server - it works, but it wasn't pretty...
****If you have ISA Server 2000/2004 this is a non-issue as it is a breeze to support a gateway for any MCU/MTU, or individual clients.

#3 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 5/26/2005 10:29:09 AM
Ok, I'm just on the client end of this one, but I think I understand what you are saying.

So, is this a better, more full-featured client than the spartan and annoying Windows Messenger ?

Thanks for the info :)

TL

#4 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 5/27/2005 2:04:54 AM
#3, Most definately it is better! Adn far better and more powerful than the old Exchange SIP client as well.

You'll like it, but if you really want to leverage what it can do - set aside some time to work with client sets and your firewall(s). Once all set up, it's pretty awesome and looks, shall I say, very Longhorn esque'

I do like how smart it is...especially the presence part and user state/availability.

We like to set all clients up inside a very diverse, but individually relevant portal type environment - mixing a lot of web parts, reporting services, etc... inside a personal portal - they tend to work inside such spaces all day and Communicator really does round this out well.

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