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| Time: 09:09 EST/14:09 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Adrian Latinak | ||
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After a two-year reign as the power behind the throne, Linux finds that its place on the royal family's Web site has been usurped by Microsoft software. The queen--or at least her new Web hosting company--has dumped GNU/Linux in favor of Microsoft IIS Web servers, ending the royal family's two-year flirtation with the open-source operating system. | ||
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| #1 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 12/6/2001 10:20:18 AM |
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That was from the Netcraft survey. This is CNet finally catching up. :)
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| #2 By 2960 (156.80.64.164) at 12/6/2001 2:02:00 PM |
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The Penguin-Thumpers(tm) are in denial :)
TL |
| #3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 12/6/2001 3:04:30 PM |
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#6 - Daily reboots? Huh? Nimda and Code Red? Whaaa?
Oh, I'm sorry.... see, I have the ability to install patches when they are available and not keep hitting my reset button by accident. So I can't really identify with ya. |
| #4 By 182 (208.224.173.2) at 12/6/2001 4:22:04 PM |
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Flood of patches? Every other day?
Are we talking about the same COMPANY here??? Microsoft, the largest manufacturer of software in the world, which has more products than some other companies have clients, has release 56 Security patches this year. FIFTY SIX. Total. For every supported version of every product they make. If they have, say, 28 products, that's two PER PRODUCT. Not one every other day. More like one every SEVEN days, and even then, only if it applies to your product. Not a bad record, and certainly not hard to keep up with. Wasting a day to recover? I have never, in supporting Windows NT 4.0 and 2000 server from the day they came out, had ANY problems with ANY service pack or patch which I installed. Of course, I wait a month after they are released, so didn't get bitten by the SP2 or SP6 (original) problems. Security is a full time job for any platform, including Mac, Linux, Sun, Windows, Oracle, AS/400, SQL Server, SAP, and just about any other platform you can name. To really lock things down tight you have to be a full-time security engineer specializing in a particular platform. There is no other way to keep up with all of the security information for ANY platform. This is why security companies exist; so you don't have to keep up with every individual detail. As for PITA for anyone trying to keep up their personal machine, now that Windows Update is distributing security patches, even that's an easy one. |
| #5 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 12/6/2001 4:54:10 PM |
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#6 is obviously another kid jumping on the Linux band wagon.
Have you ever used windows NT4 or 2000? Or do you just read comments from your cohorts with rumors about Windows NT,2k. Do some research. Expand your mind. Or keep your lame, uneducated comments to yourself. Oh, and BTW running NT4 or 2000 as a webserver and a webserver only has got to be the simplest thing I have ever done. All you need to do is apply the security patches (The ones that apply to a web hosting computer) every once in a while and that's about it. i've got NT4 servers that haven't rebooted since a few months after SP6a, all they've needed was a service restart or two. |
| #6 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 12/6/2001 6:31:38 PM |
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Ok, if I just look at bulletins from 2001 for Linux versions 7, 7.1 and 7.2 from RedHat and their powertools... sorting out duplicates.... That's not even including bulletins for older 5.x and 6.x versions because I didn't want to waste any more time.
Here's the score: RedHat 72 Microsoft 56 So RedHat has about 50% more vulnerabilities than Microsoft. I think I'll pull all the data off the RedHat site and put this list together on my website later. But as I've been saying, I'm receiving more of these from the RedHat Network than from Microsoft. |
| #7 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 12/6/2001 9:04:27 PM |
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I'm just going to ignore stupid comments like #16's.
#15 - Do you program at all? If you did, you would know the GOAL of every programmer is to write bug free code, but as an application increases in size and complexity, it becomes nearly impossible to create 100% bug free code. There are basically two kinds of bugs, logic errors and syntax errors. Syntax bugs usually turn up fairly fast, and RTM versions of software should be nearly free of these problems. Logic errors, however, are impossible to catch with 100% reliability because they often don't turn up in the testing of the product. For people to demand 100% freedom from these bugs is simply naieve and ridiculous. Linux is open source, so in theory, it should have fewer bugs because there are more eyes looking at the code. In reality, as you can see from Soda's statistics, this is not the case. As far as the amount of money you pay for a piece of software being proportional to its overall quality, I completely agree with you. I maintain, however, that if Linux had even a fraction of the abilities that Windows 2000 Server does, it would have a much higher quantity of bugs. Also, Linux is *not* free. The initial cost of purchase of software means little when compared with the total cost of ownership of the software. The only software, to my knowledge, that has a smaller TCO than Win2k is MacOS, and that's only in schools because of Apple's cheap-o pricing to those institutions. This post was edited by RMD on Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 21:07. |
| #8 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 12/6/2001 10:42:37 PM |
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My VIC-20 has an exceptionally low TCO. I plug it in, I turn on the switch and am greeted by OK? I never have to reinstall the OS, or any of the applications because there's no harddrive. Everything is in ROM that I need, including about 20 game cartridges I own.
Doesn't mean I want to use it over my PC. BTW, correction. Microsoft's score for the year is now 57. RedHat is still at 72 or thereabouts. I'm still trying to track down why the redhat numbering scheme for Security advisories is up to 160(last one is labeled RHSA-2001-160) but I only see 72 on their site. Wondering why they skip numbers, or if they are hiding details. |
| #9 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 12/7/2001 3:38:10 AM |
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Let me start with this: No person is perfect so you can't expect perfection from something a person makes.
#15 was your Daddy a hippy? I can't understand how people think that: 1. Companies should go open source... the world revolves around money and if you are showing your code all over the place its just time until someone uses it to build something better and drop a price tag on it. Companies need to have their code closed to protect thier ability to get ongoing revenues from updates and new versions. If you expect MS to open source their OS then you have to expect everyone to do the same. Do you think SoftArtisans is going to Open source their Sa-Fileup? Hell no... I'll let you figure out the reason why. 2. MS should show everybody every API... MS doesn't HAVE TO HAVE APIS!!! They are something that they program into the OS as a perk for those who develope with it. Noone has any right to demand anything from MS in that respect. So MS has "friends" it tells its secrets to. In Highschool if you didn't know the right people to get into a party chances are you aren't getting in. Do you have a right to be there? No. so go cry and get on with your life. 3. People that complain about revisions/updates/new versions. Do they suck to pay for? yes. do you have to get them. No! That is how a company that writes a piece of software does 2 things. 1) gets more revenue to keep their programmers from going hungry 2) stay ahead of the competition and offer a better experience. If you don't want new features don't buy the stuff. I still use Office 2k because I don't need all the new stuff from Office XP. I do however use Windows XP because it has more stabilty a more intuitive UI (After disabling some of the newbie user stuff). 4. People that expect software they pay for to be bug free. Do you hold yourself to that standard? If you are a carpenter do you garuantee that a house will never have any problems or your money back? I don't care what industry you are in... bugs or the equivilant are present in anything that is created. When you compare Linux to Win2k Server its like comparing a small Cesna to the Space Shuttle. Linux doesn't do everything that Windows 2k server can do outta the box. ** Wait for some dumbass Linux Comback (ie Reboot-bluescreen etc) I'm spent its late... I might add to this later. Bottom line... get your head outta the clouds and accept the world for what it is... people working for people who make things to make money to feed themselves and their family. Some people can just feed their familiy more :) Oh yea... and don't forget about Procreation! This post was edited by Mr.Humpty on Friday, December 07, 2001 at 03:46. |
| #10 By 1845 (207.173.73.201) at 12/7/2001 3:50:37 PM |
| Don't think there are many men who have forgotten about procreation. :-) |
| #11 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 12/8/2001 3:26:36 PM |
| #22 Don't be to quick to put 98 and ME into the past... though it would be a perfect world if you could, those still have their setbacks. But, I must admit that even those reboot complaints aren't to valid with 98 and ME. People that complain about rebooting their computers after a large uptime are just bitching about a problem that is OK with most users. Plus that comes from software that was *usually* poorly written and causes system instability. XP just keeps those programs from taking the computer down for the most part. An OS can only go so far from protecting itself from software... Even linux can be taken down from bad software. |
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