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| Time: 11:27 EST/16:27 GMT | News Source: ZDNet UK | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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Microsoft’s latest customer win has failed to impress members of the open source community, who insist that it doesn't prove that Windows is superior to Linux.
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/22/2005 12:39:23 PM |
| When you hear the RICS talking, you can see Bill G's lips move. |
| #2 By 29425 (24.49.15.58) at 3/23/2005 1:37:20 AM |
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Additionally, remember that most Linux advocates only look at the tired, old claim that "Since it's Open Source, you can download it for FREE!" and don't see the costs behind implementation, training, constant patch administration, and the availability of support from the software company itself.
Taking all of those things into account, Linux is by far, much more expensive to implement. --ScottKin |
| #3 By 29425 (24.49.15.58) at 3/23/2005 1:38:28 AM |
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Additionally, remember that most Linux advocates only look at the tired, old claim that "Since it's Open Source, you can download it for FREE!" and don't see the costs behind implementation, training, constant patch administration, and the availability of support from the software company itself.
Taking all of those things into account, Linux is by far, much more expensive to implement. --ScottKin |
| #4 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/25/2005 3:34:02 PM |
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#2 & #11 For just a months training on Linux, I can buy over 40 Windows 2003 licenses (at the generous K12 discount Microsoft offers) or 4 Windows 2003 licenses and 3 or 4 Dell servers.
True enough. but for those orgs still running Windows NT a look at Linux isn't necessarily a bad idea. A move to windows 2000 or 2003 would more than likely require training of the IT staff anyway... Also, are you sure that you have no idea who Parker/Parkker is? He also worked as a sysadmin in K12. But seriously - Linux is doomed because you and the other Slashdot trolls are against operating systems and software that are easy to use and administer and are secure. Wow - that's out there, even for you. I don't think any Linux advocate is against easy to use software that is secure. Being against Windows does not equaamount to the same thing. #3/#4 Additionally, remember that most Linux advocates only look at the tired, old claim that "Since it's Open Source, you can download it for FREE!" Most of the ones I've seen claim that Linux is not Free as in beer, but Free as in Freedom. There is a difference. and don't see the costs behind implementation, training, constant patch administration, and the availability of support from the software company itself. You're going to have those costs from any piece of software you implement. Sometimes Open Source will be a better fit into an org, sometimes "Closed Source" will be. It's all relative and really doesn't matter anyways. #12 yes some Windows sysadmins are mouse monkeys. Of course many of those mouse monkeys left the profession a few years ago when one actually started having to prove knowledge to get a job. Hrm... Our mouse monkeys were able to get their CCNA and/or CISSP certs, transfer to a new position and then got fired for gross incompetence :) |
| #5 By 9589 (66.26.227.109) at 3/27/2005 11:50:46 PM |
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#15, assuming your denigrating term, "mouse monkeys" refers to Microsoft administrators, what has their past success or failure as MS admins have to do with their success or failure managing a company's internetwork or their security?
I work at a very large company and I can't remember when we hired outside for internetworking and security administrators. As complex as our internetwork and security are, we train already experienced personnel from other areas in IT that think that they have an interest in these areas and can quickly prove that they have an aptitude for it. Our security administrators are particularly under the gun. It is a pressure cooker job that is not well appreciated. No on calls to say, "I am really enjoying this secure internetwork you've created. Thank you!" But, they sure know how to yell, "me first - fix it yesterday!" when something comes apart. By the way, happyguy, it is funny that you should mention CCNAs in that Cisco is proprietary, "closed source" all the way. There is zero open source market share in this area of IT. And, Cisco, by far, has a much stronger presence in IT than Microsoft. Yet, funny thing, I never hear you *nix fan boys nailing Cisco. Must be something about all that internetworking "under the covers," "out of sight; out of mind," kind of think. Huh? lol |
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