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  Netscape 8.0 - Public Beta Released
Time: 12:55 EST/17:55 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Netscape Browser provides more security options, streamlines more standard browsing tasks and arms internet users with more timesaving solutions to their browsing needs than any other browser. (That's a PR quote, not my view by the way!)

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/3/2005 1:34:19 PM
I know many Linux enthusiasts, including a few guru-level Linux coders. Strangely, none of them live in their mother's basement with dirty clothes. Most live in the houses they own with their wives and children.

However, your condescending generalities aside, I whole-heartedly agree that competition is a good thing. That is one reason I get so mad at MS for paying lip service to competition in public, while doing everything they can to thwart it in semi-private, like the Gates/Denmark fiasco from a couple of weeks ago.

#2 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/3/2005 3:00:46 PM
#4: I'm not aware of any government that is legislating against closed source. It's usually the opposite, where they legislate that open source must be considered because software industry lobbyists are doing their damnedest to demonize open source so that governments WON'T use it. I've also heard of initiatives where they insist that government-purchased software must use open standards for their data files. This is good news for everyone except MS, who has used their proprietary file formats for customer lock-in purposes since the dawn of time. Very recently, there was some clarification on MS use of XML in Office 2003, where they said (if I remember correctly, paraphrased) that third parties could use MS XML schemas only to read government documents. This is MS' attempt to get on the bandwagon of open standards so that they meet this gov't criteria without having to actually expose their schemas for competitors to use to import MS Office documents into their app. If I understand them, they're bsaically saying that anyone can save a Word doc in XML, for example, but you're not allowed to read it in anything except MS Word unless it's a government document. Again, MS trying to live up to the letter of the law, but not the spirit.

#3 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/3/2005 5:19:36 PM
#7: I'm paying enough attention to see that this article is almost 2 years old, and the meat of it comes from the ISC, a long-time MS lobby front. Is there any government that has actually legislated open source?

#9: Thanks for your take on how the corporate world works. Where I come from, ethics mean something. And it doesn't mean that you can feel good about yourself because you're an iota less evil than someone else. Basically, MS has a bad rep because a lot of the BS behind-the-scenes stuff they do has been made public over the years, and people are seeing them for the ethically-challenged gang that they are. Nobody expects MS to play fair; everyone expects them to do something nasty (like pretend to partner with someone and then rip off their tech *cough*SENDO*cough*) Eventually you sow what you reap, and MS is finding out that people have long memories. Sure, lots of companies do dirty shit, but MS is one of the worst. Or at least they're one of the worst for not being able to hide their dirty laundry, like Gates threatening the president of Denmark. Slashdot nnow has a story up where one of the EU guys is saying that Gates personally stepped in to help thwart the software patent restart. Isn't it lovely when an appointed committee can ignore their own rules of procedure, overrule a large democratically-elected body, whose members democratically elect to pursue a certain course of action, because of special interest lobby groups that are most certainly NOT doing anything to benefit the consumer?


This post was edited by Latch on Thursday, March 03, 2005 at 17:24.

#4 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 3/3/2005 8:07:39 PM
UI is certainly different and does show some innovation from Netscape. A lot more than I have seen in Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox. Really like the ability to switch browsers and the site controls. Only down side is that is based on Firefox 1.0 with it's 17 or more security deficiencies that they are doing their best to hide.

#5 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 3/4/2005 3:03:56 PM
"Lack of competion gives you... the Trabant."

Now THAT is a clever line :)

TL

#6 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 3/5/2005 8:19:05 AM
This Netscape is even worse than Firefox. I didn't think that was possible. Horrible UI, slow performance. Automagically installed AIM without asking me.

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