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| Time: 06:01 EST/11:01 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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Online miscreants have released a Trojan horse that can infect computers running Microsoft's Windows XP, installing programs to remotely control a victim's system. The program--dubbed "Phel," an anagram of "Help"--infects visitors to a maliciously-created Web site through Internet Explorer's Help controls, Symantec warned in an advisory this week. A bug in the malicious program may prevent it from infecting some computers, the security company said. | ||
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| #1 By 1401 (69.40.62.42) at 12/30/2004 6:03:40 AM |
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Quote from story:
"Microsoft has had significant problems securing its Web browser in 2004. As a result, the freely available open-source browser Firefox has gained market share. Security experts have recommended that computer users consider other browsers and some schools have told their students to use a non-Microsoft browser" That should get things going today... |
| #2 By 6859 (206.156.242.39) at 12/30/2004 11:22:19 AM |
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Hate to break it to you fanboys, but Firefox and any Mozilla code based project isn't secure against hijack and trojaning either.
If you think differently, your living in that dangerous daydream too, pal. |
| #3 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/30/2004 11:33:17 AM |
| In fact, it's EASIER to execute malicous code on FF 1.0 than it is on IE6 SP2. |
| #4 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 12/30/2004 12:21:59 PM |
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"In fact, it's EASIER to execute malicous code on FF 1.0 than it is on IE6 SP2."
So far i dont know of any spyware infections that came from browsing a site in Firefox. You'd think that if it was in fact EASIER to execute malicious code, that crackers would JUMP on the opportunity to put a dent into firefox's speedy adoption rate. |
| #5 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 12/30/2004 12:24:10 PM |
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Oh by the way, from the Wall Street Journal
"Firefox is both more secure and more modern than IE, and it comes packed with user-friendly features the Microsoft browser can't touch." http://ptech.wsj.com/ptech.html "Firefox isn't totally secure -- no browser can be, especially if it runs on Windows, which has major security problems and is the world's top digital target." "So Firefox is my current choice of a Windows Web browser. It is to IE in 2004 what IE was to Netscape in 1996 -- the upstart that does a better job." Bah.. what do they know..... This post was edited by tgnb on Thursday, December 30, 2004 at 12:29. |
| #6 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 12/30/2004 12:30:53 PM |
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From here:
http://www.desktoppipeline.com/53700233 What was the most important desktop tech event and/or product of 2004? The release of Windows XP SP2 2% The release of Mozilla's Firefox browser 95% The sale of IBM's PC/Thinkpad unit 1% The steady increase in malware and spam 2% Other event and/or product: 1% |
| #7 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/30/2004 12:31:57 PM |
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"Bah.. what do they know....."
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. |
| #8 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/30/2004 12:33:13 PM |
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"The release of Windows XP SP2 2%
The release of Mozilla's Firefox browser 95% " One would hope that an all new application would be a bigger event than a service pack! |
| #9 By 7797 (63.76.44.67) at 12/30/2004 2:48:53 PM |
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AWBrian, yeah, the WSJ doesn't know squat about technology or anything else for that matter. They are a completely invalid source of information. Obviously the article is completely biased and wrong, written by a OpenSource zealot.
And yeah I agree with you, I dont know why people are making such a fuss about SP2.. afterall its just a service pack. Microsoft has shipped service packs in the past. Those 2% who think the release of SP2 is an important desktop tech event of 2004 must be out of their minds. Although I'm not sure Parkker would agree with us. He claims Firefox isn't new at all. He claims Firefox is just old netscape 4.x spagetti code with some minor fixes and a new name slapped on so that people won't know its old code. |
| #10 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/30/2004 2:49:29 PM |
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Yup, we have an article listed here on AWIN that shows how it's easier in FF to run malicous exectuables than IE 6 SP2.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ptorr/archive/2004/12/20/327511.aspx But I shouldn't have to enlighten you. You could have just Googled for the answer. |
| #11 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/30/2004 2:53:54 PM |
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"AWBrian, yeah, the WSJ doesn't know squat about technology or anything else for that matter. They are a completely invalid source of information. Obviously the article is completely biased and wrong, written by a OpenSource zealot. "
Exactly. One man's opinion from the WSJ does not make a fact. Glad we agree on this. "And yeah I agree with you, I dont know why people are making such a fuss about SP2.. afterall its just a service pack. Microsoft has shipped service packs in the past. Those 2% who think the release of SP2 is an important desktop tech event of 2004 must be out of their minds. " Exactly. It was a security and stablitiy patch. Glad to have it of course, but it's a patch. "Although I'm not sure Parkker would agree with us. He claims Firefox isn't new at all. He claims Firefox is just old netscape 4.x spagetti code with some minor fixes and a new name slapped on so that people won't know its old code. " I don't know about it being netscape code. But I would have to really agree that it is essentially mozilla's core browser, which has been in beta/rtm for a few years now it seems. But indeed, Firefox is promoted as a new browser, at version 1.0. It's FREE and FREE just like the OSS bandwagon had intended (but not stuck to) years ago. |
| #12 By 7797 (63.76.44.67) at 12/30/2004 5:01:11 PM |
| I'm really glad you agree. You are a very smart person AWBrian. |
| #13 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/30/2004 6:57:57 PM |
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#15, it IS easier. Read the article. In fact even the mozilla group doesn't dispute it. It's easier to mistakenly install malicous executables because of the lack of signing and improper defaults and prompting for the installation/warning dialog boxes in FF. PLEASE do me a favor and read the article.
I am going to argue with your FREE comment and disagree. I remember EXACTLY when this WAVE of open source hit and it was advertised as FREE code to redistribute and FREE to use. The majority, if not all platforms and apps were FREE. As it has evolved, we are seeing a price to pay. You can say no, but I say yes. I say it was promoted as FREE and FREE and is NOT as FREE ($$) as it used to be. In fact I am seeing more and more uses of this open source with premiums attached, and lack of support unless paid. Can you tell us how long OOo will be free? Can you tell us how long it will even be around? If I had bet the bank on Corel Linux Desktop, I would be high and dry today. How do I know that OOo will be around? It seems, at least in my mind, if I want consistency and want to be sure I have support and future builds, updates and bug fixes, I would have to pay for my FREE stuff. So instead, I would have to buy StarOffice. And buy RedHat. Or buy Lindows. Or buy LindowsOffice. They have premiums attached so that they can make a profit, they can pay support, and they can pay for additional research and development. I can't trust OOo, Firefox, etc. to be there forever. At least with IE I know I will get service packs or security updates for a certain supported time frame as listed by Microsoft's support periods. |
| #14 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/31/2004 8:04:32 AM |
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1. So you can't tell me how long OOo will be around and how long it will be free.
2. Corel Linux Desktop is gone though and is not under Corel support, as I stated. 3. I do trust MS to secure my system the best they can, but I know they (as well as ANY software developer) can do better. |
| #15 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 1/2/2005 11:00:45 AM |
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"Good for you, but 80% of computer owners don't seem to agree. "
Wow, I wish I could meet you. I have NEVER talked to ANYONE who has spoke with 80% of the computer user population. |
| #16 By 12071 (203.217.26.160) at 1/3/2005 2:31:09 AM |
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#23 You've obviously never met anyone that's been able to teach you about statistics either!
Otherwise you'd know that there are multiple ways in which information can be gained and extrapolated that doesn't require one to speak directly to each user. Perhaps you should have just asked Hal where he got that statistic from or if it was based on his own opinion? |
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