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Linus Torvalds: Sun Microsystems' Solaris a "joke" | |
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| Time: 09:43 EST/14:43 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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When Linus Torvalds successfully harnessed the talent of thousands of programmers to create Linux, the operating system that arguably suffered most was Sun Microsystems' Solaris. Now Torvalds and his allies face a new side of that old competitor. Sun has turned Solaris into an open-source project. The company also is building its own community of programmers around Solaris, while promoting the operating system's deployment on the widely used computers with x86 processors, such as Intel's Xeon. But the 34-year-old Finnish programmer isn't fazed by Solaris. In fact, he's downright dismissive, calling it a "joke." | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (24.43.125.29) at 12/21/2004 2:58:02 PM |
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Parkker, you amaze me with your ability to speak while having your lips firmly attached to Microsoft's butt. I'm sure that, one day, we'll find out you're really Laura DiDio of the Yankee Group, or Rob Enderle.
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| #2 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 12/21/2004 8:25:22 PM |
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Another day... another open-source security issue.
http://news.com.com/Net+worm+using+Google+to+spread/2100-7349_3-5499725.html?tag=nefd.lede How embarrassing. Unrelated, but did anyone else notice the 10+ minute amazon.com outage earlier today? That's gotta sting, especially this time of year. |
| #3 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 12/21/2004 11:26:28 PM |
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Halcyon-X12 - "if you took the time to read it you would realize"
Take your own advice friend. You do realize how bad you looked, right? |
| #4 By 1658 (67.183.205.175) at 12/22/2004 1:23:08 AM |
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Hey Brian, or ActiveWin staff -
Just wrote a post that appears to cause an Internal Server Error 500. Interested in seeing it? Andy P.S. Yes Hal, I know, had they been running Apache, it would've never happened. You're right! We'd get some cryptic totally indeterminant error message that provides no direction whatsoever other than things like my personal favourite: "Stack trace Dump for details" This post was edited by aamendala on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 01:25. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 12/22/2004 9:19:57 AM |
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#19 - No kidding. It's getting ridiculous in here. We're going to buy a URL - sonofslashdot.com and use a re-direction to Activewin so we can at least save a URL that is more appropriate for this site's content.
And about the article - all I can reason is that high-grade crack influenced Linus. After all, he did base his initial work on Minix working in a Bourne compatible shell. There are many who think he is the one that is a Joke - right along with the Linuces themselves. Just wait, 18 short months - both will be irrelevant. |
| #6 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at 12/22/2004 9:55:29 AM |
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Why is this even posted here? I can understand the Linux vs. Windows articles, but this has so little to do with MS. In fact, I think Parrker quoted the only portion which made any reference to MS or their products in the entire article.
#20 said "Just wait, 18 short months - both will be irrelevant." I'm not sure about that. I think that Linux and MS are going to completely destroy the commercial Unix sector. For (hopefully) obvious reasons I think that Linux would grab a larger chunk of that market than MS. |
| #7 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/22/2004 11:16:50 AM |
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"Hey Brian, or ActiveWin staff -
Just wrote a post that appears to cause an Internal Server Error 500. Interested in seeing it? Andy" Yes. Email me at brian@activewin.com |
| #8 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/22/2004 11:25:17 AM |
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This site is indeed about Microsoft related news. Articles related to other software and hardware will also be reported here as well, as most relates to Microsoft in one fashion or another.
And for what it's worth, articles about Firefox, Linux, Thunderbird, etc. ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HUGE in the number of hits they get. A very quick example would be on December 20th we posted an article about how to build your own Media Center PC. That was our number one *MS* clicked through article that day. The post about looking at the newspaper ad that Firefox put out DOUBLED the click throughs on the most popular MS article. Even the SECOND most clicked through article that day was the Walmart Linux Laptop article. The top two articles accounted for more than 3 times our busiest MS article. It's obvious in my day to day postings that ActiveWin readers are truly interested in reading about the competition that Microsoft has, otherwise our numbers would'nt be so huge. Even today's article mentioning Thunderbird compared to Outlook is taking TOP hits compared to all other postings. To me, that alone is a poll of what readers are wanting. And because of this popularity, I have added new clipart to the articles that make it easier to scan our page for articles that might appeal to you more so than others. If you see the FF logo, Thunderbird logo or penquin, move along :) This post was edited by AWBrian on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 at 11:31. |
| #9 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at 12/22/2004 1:07:31 PM |
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Brian,
I don't see an issue with Linux stories posted in general, especially when they attempt to shows the pros and cons of Linux vs. Windows. I'd say that most of the articles you have posted on Linux should be posted here. I'm just not sure how Linus Torvalds talking about the future of Linux and Solaris is of much use to a MS-centric site. |
| #10 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/22/2004 2:54:35 PM |
| I didn't post that article :) |
| #11 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/22/2004 4:18:04 PM |
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"Most OSS supporters believe they are more secure with OSS"
I think that is true. I believe that if OSS is on say 1-2% of the platforms today, that 95+% of the people running them are truly computer literate, smart, geeks, techies, programmers, etc. Where has you have Windows on 95% of the desktops, yet maybe only 1-2% of them are truly computer literate, smart, geeks, techies, programmers, etc. The rest are computers in offices with secretaries, lawyers, school kids, soho workers, etc. that either don't care about security or understand it's implications, don't have the know how or knowledge of what it means to be secure, have no idea what a virus is or even a firewall is. I guess what I am saying is that if *I* were running Windows 2003, or even if a nix Zealot were running Windows 2003, we could be operating that OS just as secure as a competing OSS competitor because of our skills and knowledge and understanding of security and operating systems. I also believe that if a general user (one that falls into the remainder of the nontechie windows users) were to use OSS or Windows 2003 that they would fall victim to destabilizing their systems, installing unsigned executables, install spyware etc. I personally think that MS needs to do the following: Make sure that users are NOT administrators by default. Enable firewalls by default with no easy way to disable. Enable A/V and Spyware software by default with no easy way to disable and enable automatic updates by default and include any security patches, AV updates, spyware updates etc by default. The home users don't want to be educated, so in the case of the average desktop, you need to control their environment. |
| #12 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/22/2004 8:51:51 PM |
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"The less tools a hacker has to use to exploit your system."
As seen in the security hole with the tabbed browsing that still isn't fixed in Firefox 1.0 |
| #13 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/22/2004 8:53:12 PM |
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"Why would it be true of Windows 2003 if it wasn't true of any other Windows version?"
But it is true in other Windows versions as well. I was only using 2003 as an example as it is shipped with all the locks in place. |
| #14 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/22/2004 9:38:08 PM |
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"compartmentalized versions of Windows"
Windows Embedded, which is out now? "Now imagine a similar security hole in IE, except you can't remove it from the system." You haven't addressed my point though. Firefox has an extra tool that a hacker can use to exploit your system and Firefox 1.0 is STILL vulnerable. |
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