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  Who's Using Firefox?
Time: 12:20 EST/17:20 GMT | News Source: PC World | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim

Browser is gaining in popularity, but not necessarily at the office.

The Firefox Web browser has been causing a commotion among users and snaring snippets of market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer since June--long before Version 1.0 of the open-source software was officially released earlier this month. But statistics suggest that corporate users aren't the major group fueling the growth of Firefox. The new browser's most dramatic spikes in usage are on weekends, according to Chris Hoffman, director of engineering at the not-for-profit Mozilla Foundation, which developed Firefox.

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#1 By 3653 (68.52.181.4) at 11/29/2004 8:31:03 PM
"statistics suggest that corporate users aren't the major group fueling the growth"

No shite! I can't believe those of us with MONEY/CAREER on the line aren't jumping at the chance to test out the new alternative browser. Doesn't anyone realize that IE is here to stay in the corporate market. Apps have been built to only use IE, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. This is because when something goes wrong, I like to have a financial arrangement with the company that has to fix the problem. Without $, I don't trust that the problem will ever be fixed. And I sure as hell don't plan to risk my business on the back of some part-time programmers with no real accountability for their work. For example, and please forgive me for making a point based on someone's misfortune, but did anyone else read how the support for slackware LINUX OS is all but shut down due to ONE GUY getting sick? I'm serious. If I went to my CIO and told him I couldn't quickly fix an issue because "some guy" that we don't pay for his work, has gotten sick.... he would fire me on the spot.

BTW, I hope the slackware guy gets better. Nothing personal to him.

#2 By 3653 (68.52.181.4) at 11/29/2004 8:34:20 PM
"two of the 25 respondents said their organizations have standardized on Firefox"

I call a big fat BULSHITE on that stat. No way!

#3 By 3653 (68.52.181.4) at 11/30/2004 2:14:31 AM
"Why is it hard to believe that businesses wouldn't use Firefox though?"

Might be true for NEW development, but NEW dev work must be ?<10%? of the work being done these days. Most companies are already well into or beyond their second generation web apps by now.

#4 By 1401 (69.40.59.170) at 11/30/2004 9:26:32 AM
What ever happened to the rumored GBrowser from Google? Does anyone know if that will ever be a reality?

#5 By 13030 (198.22.121.120) at 11/30/2004 10:36:22 AM
Gallaher says the migration has gone well, except for components in a few applications that don't yet support Firefox, including the county's enterprise document management system. But he says the application vendors have indicated that they will fix the problems.

Mark's Work Wearhouse, a Calgary, Alberta-based retail chain, encountered Firefox support problems with the Web sites of some of its suppliers and business partners, according to CIO Robin Lynas. For example, the pages on a courier company's site wouldn't render properly with the new browser. But the courier has since fixed the problem, Lynas says.

In other words, problems with the fact that IE was weak in its standards compliance allowing sloppy code to be forgivingly rendered.

Jefferson County ran the beta version of Firefox and is moving to Version 1.0.

Off topic, but I couldn't resist: I grew up in Jefferson County. I remember when it was more rural than suburban...

What's making Hartman hesitant to recommend the switch to Firefox is the company's investment in Microsoft's Dynamic HTML technology for its intranet applications.

The third biggest mistake any company made when creating web-based apps: Microsoft's Dynamic HTML. (The first being being the use of big monolithic packages, such as Broadvision, for web apps and the second being the use of Cold Fusion.)

My favorite quote: '"What has Microsoft done with IE for the last few years? They've ignored it."'
MS needs to re-read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War".

#6 By 37 (24.183.41.60) at 12/1/2004 7:03:55 PM
msucks, but where is the savings? IE is already included with their Windows OS and has free add-ons.

#7 By 3653 (68.52.181.4) at 12/1/2004 10:25:13 PM
"use machines that run other OSes already instead "

seriously, get a job... and then come back and try to type that same naive comment.

So, now i'm not only replacing my browser... but i'm replacing the entire OS? Halcyon, do you think these companies have nothing to do but manage their 10 desktops?

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