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Time: 12:43 EST/17:43 GMT | News Source: Ent Mag | Posted By: Adrian Latinak

“Our network administrators are very diligent about applying patches so most of our machines were already protected,” he says. “The remaining machines were patched in a few hours. The ease of obtaining the patches from Microsoft made the issue much less of a problem than it could have been.”

Because of this, Stemper says, he hasn’t given much thought to replacing IIS with another Web server platform. Besides, he confesses, his IT organization already moved once from another platform – Apache – to IIS. “We used to be an all-Apache shop. We had a very difficult time finding the detailed help that we needed when issues arose,” he avers, adding: “We were affected more by hacking attempts and cracks then than we ever have been with IIS.”

Also, Netcraft later updated its November report to show that more sites had switched from other platforms to IIS in the same month -- 148,000. iPlanet/Netscape-Enterprise lost three times as many sites to IIS as it gained from Microsoft's server in its high-profile migration promotion, according to Netcraft.

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#1 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 11/16/2001 2:12:41 PM
Just a piece of that article...

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Netcraft later updated its report to show that more sites had switched from other platforms to IIS in the same month -- 148,000. iPlanet/Netscape-Enterprise lost three times as many sites to IIS as it gained from Microsoft's server in its high-profile migration promotion, according to Netcraft.
]

<giggle><giggle>*blush*

#2 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/16/2001 5:51:45 PM
Oh dear, the anti-MS squad isn't going to like this article.

#3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/17/2001 5:27:21 AM
#5/#7 - care to qualify your statements with facts?

Windows 2000 with IIS 5 has out performed every other solution on the market in both file sharing and web serving (static and database based via an ASP/COM solution). Windows 2000 Datacenter guarantees 99.999% uptime, something that NO other server on the market does.

As far as security, software is only as secure as the administrator is diligent. And, as we can easily see, Windows admins seem to be morons. Personally, I've never had a problem. See, I have this secret weapon. It's called.... a clue.

#4 By 1845 (65.0.207.79) at 11/17/2001 11:59:01 AM
"If you're like me, you're pretty excited about PHP 4.0 and Zend. Why not grab yourself a beta and get coding? " - From the end of the article you're quoting.

Perhaps it would be more appropriate to compare this beta to Microsoft's latest beta - ASP.NET which is also compiled. Perhaps they could compare it to VB calling it's compiled counterparts in DLLs.

Hmm. Now that I've read the beginning of the article (you're link started on page 3), I find that is was by 16 Dec 1999. If I'm not mistaken, that was two months before Windows 2000 launched. What ever benchmarks apply to NT 4, certainly do not apply to Windows 2000. For one thing the VBScript interpreter in Windows 2000 was rewritten, so that scripts run approaching or surpassing compiled VB code (still slower than C++ ISAPI filters, though).

Leaving ASP in the dust? Two years later ASP is still alive and well.

#5 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/17/2001 12:15:43 PM
#13. Tux is nothing more than a kernel level web caching engine.

Microsoft has created something similar... can't find it now, but I notice you don't compare Tux to a similar technology on Windows.

#14. Why wasn't this PHP/Zend thing compared to ASP.Net?

#6 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/17/2001 12:18:16 PM
Oh, this is interesting. This Zend accelerator for PHP is $980/CPU.

That's more than the cost of Windows .Net Server and the ASP.NET compiler is free.

#7 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/17/2001 4:09:12 PM
#12 - As I said, if the various Linux distros are so stable, why don't the OEMs guarantee 5 9's of uptime?

Oh, and by guaranteeing 5 9's, it does NOT suggest that the server is ONLY at 5 9's. In-fact, ignoring datacenter completely, my Windows 2000 Server has been running for 1 year, 162 days, 4 hours, and 33... no wait, 34 seconds. (Behind a firewall of course.) Uptime is simply no longer an issue with Windows. (Even with NT4, uptime wasn't nearly as much of a problem as many would have suggested.)

#13 - First off, could you please provide a link to the actual benchmark data, instead of hearsay with no benchmark setups or explanations?

Second, who in their right mind would run IIS on Datacenter? It's called DATAcenter, as in it's meant for mission critical DATA applications like SQL Server. Personally, I've never had any problems with my uptime, as you can see from above.

Lastly, I see no comparisons to ASP.NET on all the posts above. It wouldn't really be fair to compare PHP to ASP.NET, since ASP.NET is compiled and would kick the poopy out of even PHP+Zend. So how about some comparisons with Java, the pseudo-compiled offspring of Sun:

http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/compare/default.aspx

#8 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/17/2001 10:15:17 PM
#20... thanks for the clarifacation. I posted the 8 hour stat a little while back, and even since I had this wierd feeling I was wrong. Good to know I was, because 8 hours was a bit much. :-)

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