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Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE | |
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| Time: 06:46 EST/11:46 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Just days after the launch of open-source browser Firefox 1.0, Microsoft executives defended Internet Explorer, saying it is no less secure than any other browser and doesn't lack any important features. At a security roundtable discussion in Sydney on Thursday, Ben English, Microsoft's security and management product manager, told attendees that IE undergoes "rigorous code reviews" and is no less secure than any other browser. | ||
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| #1 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 11/12/2004 7:18:26 AM |
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Its good that they are still in denial! And this is the best example of that:
"Vamos, who admitted he has never used Firefox, said there is a lot of hype surrounding the open-source movement and that if Microsoft's customers wanted new features, they would have told the company about it." This post was edited by tgnb on Friday, November 12, 2004 at 07:23. |
| #2 By 8556 (12.217.161.186) at 11/12/2004 10:17:02 AM |
| Tabs are not "important" but they are darned convenient. By the way, I know tabs, center mouse button click to open a new tab, etc. existed before Firefox. The argument here relates to MS's comments about the importance of features not currently in IE and MS’s PR to downplay any non-MS software. |
| #3 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/12/2004 10:55:41 AM |
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"know tabs, center mouse button click to open a new tab"
Since these features are available as add-ons to IE (free), that point is moot. |
| #4 By 6253 (24.1.239.191) at 11/12/2004 12:20:14 PM |
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I don't think so, PreacherBoy (and I've been using Firefox as my default browser for more than 6 months). Take away all the extensions and the ability to have extensions, and interest in Firefox will stop growing. It will never lose all its supporters, but it won't gain any more.
These days, you can release virtually anything and find a few million geeks who think it's cool (and they tend to assume that everybody thinks like they do). Every day, I see real-world college graduates who have been using computers for years but still have trouble understanding the minimize-maximum-close window concept. Similarly, I run into people who have used Excel for years but are shocked when I point at the tabs indicating multiple worksheets inside a workbook. You're kidding yourself if you think tabs are a guaranteed no-brainer for most of the half-billion browser users in the world. You know what really happens 30 minutes after you finish lecturing grandma on the benefits of using Firefox and showing her how to use it (while she nods and smiles and agrees with you, the entire time)? Sneak up behind her later and she's back to using IE. Why? Maybe it's because she forgot what you said. Or maybe she didn't understand a word of it, but didn't want to offend you. Or maybe she just didn't have time to absorb it all yet. Or maybe she ran into a problem with a site and didn't want to bother anyone, since she knew she could get around it with IE. The sad fact is: if you don't understand why AOL has 23 million subscribers paying the ridiculous price of $24 per month, then you're simply unequipped to understand why Firefox needs waaaaaay more than a handful of convenient-for-geek features. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 11/13/2004 6:05:27 AM |
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#5, Those are the best points I have seen on AW!
So true. Small shops have to support the software they develop - no matter how complex. I was on a two hour call yesterday - training people whio had presented their requirements on the use of their applications we had built for them. It was agony - despite a roles and task based model, numerous examples, many repetitions of the same examples...most was lost on the group. I felt like crap. I thought, man...may be we missed it entirely; however, at one point I asked, "Okay, now you see the Outlook Icon embedded in the Record...? <they all use Outlook 2003> - a chorus of, "No" was the reply..... - "It is the only icon on the page and looks identical to the Outlook icon you use to open your email...?" ..."No" Followed by, "Oh, you mean the Outlook icon...?" "Yes <loading gun, pointing at own head>" "Sorry...our blood sugar is low...." "No problem....<pulling trigger (twice)>" #5 is dead on. People are smart, but they are also really busy, and half the time they have a ton of stuff on their plates. They simply do not have much time to explore a lot of features and they really could care less about tabbed browsing. To assume that they do is a big mistake and this is what Microsoft attends to - a broader look at customer requirements, needs and desires. |
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