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  Novell counters Microsoft's Linux 'facts' with 'truth'
Time: 13:37 EST/18:37 GMT | News Source: Computer Weekly | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim

Novell has launched a website devoted to "unbending the truth" about Linux in the enterprise to counter the latest salvo of Microsoft's Get the Facts campaign against open-source software. Novell chief executive officer Jack Messman is also sending an e-mail to Novell customers. In that e-mail, Messman debunked a memo that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer sent to customers last week. In his e-mail, Ballmer wrote that Windows has economic and security advantages over open-source software and warned that Linux users are fair game for intellectual property lawsuits.

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#1 By 12071 (203.217.66.82) at 11/8/2004 8:11:06 AM
#5 "Microsofts thoughts should be lent more credence because of their track record"

Let's take a look at their "track record" shall we:

"In the 1990s, Microsoft adopted exclusionary licensing under which PC manufacturers were required to pay for an MS-DOS license even when the system shipped with an alternative operating system. It also used predatory tactics to price its competitors out of the market, and erected technical barriers to make it appear that competing products did not work on its operating system. An investigation by the United States Department of Justice on August 21, 1993 determined this behavior to be illegal; in a consent decree issued on July 15, 1994, Microsoft agreed to a deal in which, among other things, it would not "tie" other Microsoft products into its operating system."

"After bundling the Internet Explorer web browser into its Windows operating system in the late 1990s and acquiring a dominant share in the web browser market, an antitrust case was brought against Microsoft, and the company was convicted by a United States federal court for violating its earlier consent decree and abusing its monopoly in the desktop operating systems market. However, the proposed remedy (dividing Microsoft into two companies) was overturned on appeal, and Microsoft has since reached a settlement with the Department of Justice and some of the states which brought suit against it. Meanwhile, several class-action lawsuits filed after the conviction are still pending."

"In early 2002, Microsoft proposed a settlement to end the private lawsuits against it by donating $1 billion in money, software, services, and training, including Windows licenses and refurbished PCs, to about 12,500 underprivileged public schools. This would have been a windfall for Microsoft, not only in educating schoolchildren on Microsoft solutions but also in collecting additional license and service fees if the schools ever wanted to upgrade; but after protests from Apple Computer, which feared further loss of its educational market share, a federal judge rejected the proposed settlement."

"In 2003-2004, the European Commission investigated the bundling of media player software into Windows, a practice which rivals complained was destroying the market for their own products. Negotiations between Microsoft and the Commission broke down in March 2004, and the company was subsequently handed down a record fine of €497 million ($613 million) for its breaches of EU competition law. The ruling is subject to appeal in the European courts. Separate investigations into alleged abuses of the server market were also ongoing at the same time."

Then there's small items such as:
* Microsoft modified Win 3.1 to not run on top of DR-DOS, Caldera even had email evidence. (http://www.maxframe.com/DR/Info/fullstory/factrel.html)
* Microsoft stole Stac Electronics data compression code. (http://www.base.com/software-patents/articles/stac.html)
* Microsoft violated the contract they had with Sun over Java.
* Microsoft have modified MSN's pages to specifically render poorly on Opera. Opera proved each time that their browser and only their browser was attacked.
... and the list goes on...

The fact you consider that they should be lent more credence as a result of their track record speaks volumes!

#2 By 12071 (203.217.66.82) at 11/8/2004 8:35:42 AM
#5 "Sounds like Kerry vs Bush too. :) "

You mean like this:
* Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041105/D865R1DO0.html)
* Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm)

Of course none of this, regardless of wether it's true or not, changes anything, but it does makes you wonder. Well not you personally parkker.

#3 By 19992 (164.214.4.32) at 11/8/2004 8:51:14 AM
Kabuki

Commondreams? You're kidding, right? That's like going to Michael Moore for facts. I'm not aware of a single "news" story on there that hasn't been thouroughly debunked.

#4 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at 11/8/2004 2:16:31 PM
msucks - don't forget the other 30 states that went for Bush. Kerry would have won, but there aren't enough spoiled rich kids out there to vote for Kerry yet.

"And also the helping aid of the far right wing network fox news."

Yep, And the rest of the "news" networks did nothing to help Kerry, did they?

"No wonder there was a bin laden video right before the election."

You need to rejoin the tin foil brigade. Bin Laden was put up to the message by Karl Rove (or so says Walter Cronkite)

#5 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 11/8/2004 5:55:35 PM
#9 Which is why I specifically mentioned the point in regards to wether it was true or not. I don't read commondreams, in fact that's the first time I've seen the site, but it came up in the google search and it was interesting commentary which is why I added it in.

#10 I'm actually happy that 'Moral Values' won in the end in the US of A! I'm glad that the whole religious community came out in support of 'Moral Values'. I'm just a little concerned that those 'Moral Values' don't include starting unprovoked war. Isn't it interesting that Bush's method of spreading democracy around the world is to bomb the crap out of a place and then force it on them, telling them it's the best way to be.

#12 "Kerry would have won, but there aren't enough spoiled rich kids out there to vote for Kerry yet."
Yeah, it's such a pity that Bush is such a poor man... Damn Kerry for being a rich fat cat!!! (Oh incase you missed it again, that was sarcasm!)

#6 By 19992 (68.232.102.14) at 11/8/2004 8:39:56 PM
#13
" yes, you're right, but surely there are lots of spoiled right wing redneck gun nuts over there to ensure the bush vote"

Spoiled rednecks? That's a new one. Isn't that an oxymoron? Sorta like good socialism or thoughtful Democrat.

#14

Commondreams is about on the same level as DailyKOS and DU.com.

"Yeah, it's such a pity that Bush is such a poor man"

I never made any reference to Pres. Bush's monetary value. However, I believe that Kerry (Gigalo) and Edwards (ambulance chaser) both had him beat on that issue.

#7 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 11/8/2004 10:07:22 PM
#16 "The "moral values" people voted for was honesty and the ability to defend the country"
Like I said, I'm just a little concerned that certain moral values were ignored.

"In 2004, his vote went up across the all demographic groups."
Except the youth.

"The "moral values" meme that the mainstream media is pushing is just to cover up the bitterness they feel."
Fox is pushing that as well... nice try.

"I find it sad that you think Al Quada should have been allowed to continue training terrorists in Afghanistan "
Woooooah! Hold on there tiger! I was talking about Iraq not Afghanistan. What? You're going to talk about the moral values of your President lying his ass off about WMD (amongst other things)?

"you would prefer women to still be enslaved by the Taliban"
No, I'd rather certain American soldiers look after the women and men of Iraq... they've done such a great job so far. Nice photos!

"When some group slaughters 4,000 people (while attepting to kill 100,000) and you are mad that the US fought back it makes me question your sanity."
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11... get that through your thick skull already! You of all people shouldn't be questioning anyone's sanity other than your own!

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