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  Spaghetti Without the Sauce
Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Todd Richardson

The current problems that arise with Windows XP Service Pack 2 when you are running certain applications, including some from Microsoft itself, seem suspicious to me and remind me of the days of "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run." I mention that because among the huge list of applications that don't work or that need hand-tweaking to run with SP2, you'll find some that compete directly with Microsoft initiatives. This all proves what you get with 45 million lines of what must be spaghetti code.

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#1 By 6253 (24.1.239.191) at 9/6/2004 2:34:57 AM
I remember when John Dvorak used to have meaningful things to say. Now he just makes up crap that he doesn't know squat about, hoping to get a reaction.

Microsoft hasn't merely listed apps known to break with SP2; they also published detailed explanations of exactly why apps break and how their authors could fix them, and this info has been available for months to anybody who wants it. If this is how Microsoft "intentionally" breaks competitors' products, they could have broken more by simply calling up their competitors and saying "Boo!" into the phone.

Dvorak says the list of Microsoft programs broken by SP2 is "suspicious." He never quite says why, except that there are fewer Microsoft programs on the list than non-Microsoft. Hello? There are fewer Microsoft programs on the market than non-Microsoft. Duh.

Dvorak obviously doesn't understand anything like DCOM so he focuses on the category of apps which are broken due to ports being blocked by default, but he never mentions that one of the Microsoft programs broken by this is SQL Server (all versions, including MSDE, Personal Edition, and Developer Edition which are commonly run atop XP). C'mon, John, would Microsoft really break SQL Server just for the sake of a smokescreen? We're not talking about Monster Truck Madness. This is SQL Server!

It gets more ridiculous if you look at the messages posted on Dvorak's forum. His worshippers -- er, I mean readers -- are claiming that Microsoft "disabled" niche programs like Zoom Player and Endnote. Gimme a break! I've got nothing against those programs but they are pathetically insignificant to Microsoft. Comparing them to the Microsoft vs. Lotus competition of years ago (or any of Microsoft's major competition today, such as Oracle, Java, Mozilla, iTunes, etc.) is bizarre.

#2 By 143 (68.77.72.241) at 9/6/2004 3:40:52 AM
XP SP2 is running ok on my system...
The only problem I'm having there's a folder i can't delete with no files in it.

I look for a XP SP2a though.

#3 By 143 (68.77.72.241) at 9/6/2004 1:27:56 PM
Thank You, Simdude90015

#4 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at 9/6/2004 7:54:12 PM
#1 "Now he just makes up crap that he doesn't know squat about, hoping to get a reaction."
Looks like he succeeded!

"When you ask around, Microsoft insiders will tell you that nobody at the company fully understands the Windows code. This has apparently been true for years."
This is true of nearly every single large software project, people will have a good understanding of the big picture of how it all works but only understand parts of the code, most likely those that they've worked on themselves, and there is nothing wrong with this approach. It would be a waste of time and money to make sure that any new Windows developer had to firstly sit down and go through the whole existing code base to understand it all.

#5 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 9/7/2004 8:31:40 AM
The Wireless thru-put on my Home-Media serve has gone into the crapper since installing SP2.

It took almost NINE hours for it to copy 4GB worth of material over a 54G connection. Prior to intallation, it would have taken an hour or less.

TL

#6 By 17605 (24.18.175.71) at 9/7/2004 12:35:45 PM
tech larry....sounds like you need to check your router configuration. It seems that you are getting internet speeds instead of intranet speeds. Make sure you have your UPnP settings turned on in your router so Windows XP will properly realize your devices are on the same side of the router.

#7 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 9/7/2004 4:58:45 PM
Turn on UPnP ? Are you Mad ?

Not gonna happen. Not on my machine.

Everything was fine before installing sp2.

TL

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