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| Time: 10:43 EST/15:43 GMT | News Source: VNUNet | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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As IT Week revealed recently, Microsoft is working to make Windows run Linux software, and not before time. Windows and Linux would be much more useful platforms if they could each run software originally written for the other. Now let's talk about Longhorn. Longhorn is the codename for the next version of Windows, currently slated for delivery in 2008. Though Microsoft has mentioned the possibility of a 3D graphical user interface, and a new database-like file-system, it has actually made no promises about what will be included in Longhorn. Many people note that 2008 is so far away that without an excellent crystal ball, nobody could predict what the update will contain. But one thing I reckon for certain about Longhorn is that it will be able to run Linux software. | ||
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| #1 By 665 (64.151.11.238) at 7/22/2004 10:58:01 AM |
| This is the first place I've heard anyone confidently say LH was coming out in 2008... I don't I buy that. |
| #2 By 665 (64.151.11.238) at 7/22/2004 1:49:37 PM |
| Yeah, it isn't unfathomable that LH Server would come out in 2008, although MS has never even talked much about that release date. Last I heard they were aiming for Server to debut about a year after the Longhorn client, so probably in 2007 (although that seems to be changing with the direction of the wind :-) ). |
| #3 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 7/22/2004 5:46:49 PM |
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I guarantee you that Windows won't have a Linux compatibility mode.
It's just such a stupid concept, I don't even understand how some "journalists" have picked up on it as a rumor. |
| #4 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 7/23/2004 1:17:21 AM |
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Longhorn 2006 [WS OS and variants]
Blackcombe 2008 [SVRS] R2 for W2K2 Q404/Q105 w/SMB over SSL! [445 for the port friendly in the thread]. The first two above will revolutionize interoperability - right about the time about 5 billion others on this planet will need it most [e.g., there is plenty of room for great software and great competing, but cooperative alternatives to "all" OS'es]. .NET - most especially 2005 and later WinFX will really accelerate managed development - in ways that are hard to imagine - word to OSS, you'd better start a lot of work on your tools divisions or the game will really be over and that will make matters even more difficult for that community. MS does not worry about what others do - it worries about what it is doing, going to do, and what is valuable to its customers - developers, businesses and regular people. One final word: "Presence" - not just IM, I mean relevant presence, as in our lives are nuts - a constant mix of work, family and hopefully friends. Presence must allow a system [notice I did not say just OS], to understand where we are, when and what our focus is - that is, what information do I need right now - 80% work, 20% about what is next opposite my Family...a few hours later...80% home, family and friends...and 20% the most important items that I need to attend to for work. No gadget, or combination of gadgets will solve this...only very smart systems that work together to deliver "Individually Relevant Intelligence Product" - driven by presence. Pay attention to where intuitive interfaces matter most - MSN Premium, Encarta, and Picture It...it'll hint, but just a little at what is coming as far as UI. "You can play Quake III off the network with the 3d calls being passed to your card... it's actually playable. However you have to realize that your network is slower than an AGP bus... Still cool though. With gigabit ethernet on a PCI-X bus it must be even better!" Very Cool, and you're more right than you can imagine - but it won't be just about gaming. This post was edited by lketchum on Friday, July 23, 2004 at 01:18. |
| #5 By 13997 (68.7.81.55) at 7/23/2004 8:10:29 AM |
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It still amazes me that after 20 years of GUI server systems running everything from XWindows to Win32, that people like you still think a server is JUST for FILES, DATA STREAMS, and PRINTER SHARING. This is the 21st century my friend, we use Windows 2003 servers for application distribution, its media services, and many other features that are VERY GUI centric. As for having the 3D interface technology in a Server, it makes a lot of sense, especially for small companies and users that use the Server product for more than just file and printer sharing. Not everyone is just using their server to warehouse files anymore, these are application and media servers. Additionally, Microsoft has already said and it is a proven fact that pushing data through RDP (terminal services) from a server is far more efficient in a vector/3d environment than pushing every GDI and bitmap call through the same protocol. There is far less data in a vector of an object its X,Y,Z and the color and lighting, than transmitting a full bitmap rendering of the object themselves and the screen. Not only will there be 3D abilities in a 'server product' Microsoft should and will be using these technologies to even improve remote client access environments and will also be using these technologies in way that you apparently don't even consider to be viable server solutions. |
| #6 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 7/23/2004 2:54:33 PM |
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#14, yup and new "connectoids" for users of ISA Servers to support the same types of inspections to enforce and push-down policies and updates as required.
Warrants a serious, "woo hoo" for a lot of admins supporting remote and or Tablet/Laptop users. So far, we've managed to get these kinds of users around the risks by pushing everything they need to the perimeter and using our own CA and HTTPS to privide them access to all services and data they need. It's actually worked out real well and improved both experience and productivity - they never actually log in to the Domains, but have access to all required resources via SSL and a single consistent interface. A combination of third-party tools keeps the junk off of their systems opposite their web surfing habits [which lean towards the darker side if the web in a lot of cases - males in their 40's <nuff said>]. Combinations of web parts, reporting services, RPC over HTTPS and much more, allow for this and a lot less headache. I do assess we've created some monsters...their friends and colleagues see it and want it - and of course assume that because its all on the web, it's both real easy to do and real cheap - in that context, we've really kicked our own backsides. For all of it, ISA and XML have been the keys to the kingdom - without these two it would have been very difficult. I cannot wait for ISA 2004 Enterprise Edition - though I will miss having to actually know what it is doing and how to do it - MS made 2004 so easy to set up - it is literally stupid proof. Also, RRAS on W2K3 - can't forget that one...in cases where we do not include ISA 2000/2004, it is very easy and solid for the SBM. |
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