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  Industry Group Calls Microsoft's Custom NT 4.0 Support 'Victory'
Time: 13:07 EST/18:07 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Robert Stein

While the planned obsolescence of Microsoft Corp's Windows NT 4.0 comes as no surprise, still, some customers have been slow to hear the warning bell, especially in the financial services industry. So a non-profit group comes to the rescue, letting commerce—and the oh-so important security patches—continue unabated. But at a cost. BITS, a nonprofit consortium of 100 of the largest financial institutions in the United States, announced on Monday that Microsoft will "provide financial institutions and other [NT 4.0] customers with security updates for an extended period during which they will migrate their systems to more recent versions of Windows," according to a Microsoft press release.

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#1 By 1643 (64.73.227.129) at 6/24/2004 3:55:38 PM
#5 Then you've never managed an enterprise infrastructure or you wouldn't say something like that.

What's your experience in IT? It must just be a hobby...

#2 By 6859 (206.156.242.39) at 6/24/2004 4:05:51 PM
I agree with forcing stupid companies to upgrade. They're too busy wasting money supporting ancient NT systems. They all need to come into the light of Server 2003. I use it, it kicks butt over NT server any day. The migration isn't that painful, I don't know why they'd deman any kind of enhanced consideration from MS at all...and I dont' know why MS even gave them any.

NT was great, but it's time for it to go.

#3 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/24/2004 11:06:09 PM
So use an OS that many would argue is more expensive to manage, slightly slower in all respects (especially if you use java), less hardware compatibility, way less applications...and the pricing is equal if you require support (business customers)...all because you think MS is going to start assimilating humans into a ms controlled world...stop smoking the chronic dude...your getting paranoid.

I mean if you're a government, corporation, large customer, etc. you can view the source...you can't just compile it yourself.

#12 Today's businesses run on more than just office suites...but you keep dodging any experience questions so obviously you have none and wouldn't know.

humor

#4 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/25/2004 4:40:11 AM
Not making a case against Linux...just that MS normally does it cheaper/faster/and more integrated (reducing KWs from recreating data instead reusing data).

I like Linux...as I've said...it's a great tool, it's a great way to learn the computer from the bottom up...but it's just not something I would want to deploy and manage in enterprise...desktop or server (though I can see some niche uses for the server or some embedded stuff).

It also has motivated MS tremendously...when you have a lot smart people with no motivation to push the edge...things tend to stagnate a little. Luckily, MS has proven time and again that it can change directions at lightning fast speed while responding to customer requirements.

humor



This post was edited by humor on Friday, June 25, 2004 at 04:41.

#5 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/25/2004 10:01:13 PM
"tying them into their products"

Nobody is forced into anything...it's so easy to switch to linux as you continuously claim (openoffice, skype, entourage...they got everything, right?)...so maybe people are staying because it's compelling and not because they are "tied" or "fooled"...you think it's possible thaey haven't been duped? Why couldn't they move today?

"Who says they're still around just because MS can adapt?"
MS has some of the smartest business people, smartest developers, and smartest researchers...and their past history has been I pretty good sign (though of course, it doesn't guarantee anything). Who says MS won't be around for a while...only the OSS zealots...who love the underdog that doesn't have a chance and ignore the flaws instead of addressing them. Exactly what MS doesn't do.

humor



This post was edited by humor on Friday, June 25, 2004 at 22:02.

#6 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/26/2004 12:42:46 AM
#20, you make no sense...get your head out of your...SERENITY NOW!

#7 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/26/2004 12:46:09 AM
"If you create a document in MS Office, and MS doesn't allow others to use the DOC format, you are forced to open these documents in MS Office. "

OMG, please see #20's first paragraph.

"The question becomes "Are you prepared to dedicate your money to MS" because you're going to have to get MS Office and Windows (unless you use Crossover) and updates to these products because old ones become unsupported. "

Yes, because it provides a better product at a cheaper price over the long term. And you haven't shown me one thing that your locked in now...so lets stop the FUD.

"You have to pay MS forever."
Your getting tired i think...your not making as musch sense as you used to.

humor

#8 By 1643 (204.210.30.241) at 6/26/2004 12:25:14 PM
"People complain of file format incompatibilities. Home users have no problem switching but businesses seem to be locked in.

Seem to be eh'...

"[Some] People complain of file format incompatibilities"

So formatting of tables inconsistently in some office documents is "locked in" to Microsoft's desktop, server, web, and office technology for business customers. I see.

I'm not arguing this anymore on this thread...you have no perspective outside your bias.



This post was edited by humor on Saturday, June 26, 2004 at 17:00.

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