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  EU Backs Antitrust Ruling Vs. Microsoft
Time: 09:23 EST/14:23 GMT | News Source: Associated Press | Posted By: Byron Hinson

The European Union's antitrust chief won critical backing Monday for a potentially landmark ruling against Microsoft Corp. that sources say finds the U.S. software giant abused its Windows monopoly. It also demands changes in the way the company operates, the sources said.

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#1 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 3/15/2004 11:50:55 AM
Umm, they have all the recourse in the world. Let's start with: Why do you think law enforcement doesn't exist outside the U.S.?

#2 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 3/15/2004 1:34:00 PM
baarod, no, you are wrong. Your point is the product of your own brain and has nothing to do with fact.

1. Why would you need stormtroopers?

2. Why would they need to come to America?

3. Do you think MS's offices in Europe and their value to MSFT are "small"?

4. You can fine a company any amount, never mind basing it on their assets or their revenue, or whether or not it was in your jurisdiction. In fact, the EC can fine MSFT up to 10% of the annual worldwide revenue.

5. Microsoft exceeds 10 billion a quarter in worldwide revenue; do you really think they make less than a billion in Europe in a year?

6. Do you really think it would be "cheap" to close up shop? More like colossal and monumental PR disgrace, huge loss of revenue, most boneheaded move in corporate history, etc...!

7. What makes you think such a thing as "purchasing direct from Microsoft in the USA" is really evading the EC and no longer within the jurisdiction of the EC?


Jesus.

This post was edited by sodajerk on Monday, March 15, 2004 at 13:53.

#3 By 6253 (24.1.206.27) at 3/15/2004 2:42:16 PM
sodajerk is right, but the fine itself is really a non-issue. Microsoft can easily afford to pay $3 billion. I'm sure that Microsoft is much more concerned about the other sanctions, which are frankly a joke. People hate the Real Player because it's an obtrusive, obnoxious, spam-attracting piece of junk, not because it wasn't included in the OS. The only people left on earth who don't realize this are the people at Real. Otherwise, RealAlternative wouldn't exist. Take away Real and the QuickTime Player, and there are very few competitors to WMP which do not use WMP components under the hood themselves. They certainly don't want WMP to be removed from the OS, because it would break them.

Offering Windows "without" any bits of Media Player at all would be impractical and a support nightmare for OEMs, ISPs, ISVs, corporate help desks, lots of parties other than Microsoft. I'd be interested to see if the EU has formulated a more detailed, technical definition (which you obviously wouldn't see in an Associated Press report). It would be easy to offer Windows without any visible shortcuts to Media Player. It might even be reasonable to offer Windows without the WMP 7-9 executable (wmplayer.exe) but still with WMP 6.4 (mplayer2.exe) and Media Player 5 (mplay32.exe) which have always been "hidden" in XP anyway. Without those, APIs which have been part of Windows since 16-bit days, such as MCI and VFW, would break.

And now that WM9 codecs have become part of a future DVD standard, Microsoft would be justified in including the version 9 codecs even if the version 9 player is excluded.

#4 By 2459 (24.175.141.98) at 3/15/2004 8:29:22 PM
The only people left on earth who don't realize this are the people at Real.

According to a post about a week ago, Real realizes this as well. I'm sure they don't want to publically acknowledge it because it'd damage their strategic litigation against MS.

#5 By 3339 (64.160.58.135) at 3/16/2004 5:57:35 PM
Why would I educate a person like yourself whom I don't know? I'm not responsible for your idiocy.

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