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  Symantec’s Thompson: Microsoft No Looming Threat
Time: 04:53 EST/09:53 GMT | News Source: CRN | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

At least for now, Microsoft's move into the antivirus market is "much ado about nothing," Symantec CEO and Chairman John Thompson said this week in an exclusive interview with CRN at the security vendor's Enterprise Partner Summit in Chicago.

"Until they have an offering in the marketplace, until we know what it is targeted toward, we're not going to run around doing high-speed hand wringing at Symantec," Thompson said.

Microsoft's plan to offer a fee-based antivirus solution after its acquisition last month of Romanian antivirus company GeCAD prompted some industry observers to question the future of antivirus vendors such as Symantec. But Thompson shook off any doubts, noting that security is more than antivirus software; it requires an integrated set of technologies at each tier of a customer's network.

"The fact Microsoft now has antivirus is interesting, but until they do something with it in a way that allows it to truly solve the threat problems of today, it is nothing more than a hollow promise to the marketplace," he said.

The strength of Symantec's brand in the enterprise is strong enough to withstand Microsoft's antivirus intentions, but it needs to be cautious as to the software giant's plans in the consumer/low-end market, Thompson said, at a conference dinner with partners.

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#1 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 7/12/2003 11:47:34 PM
You absolutely can send messages to applications running as a different user IF that application has a window shown on *your* desktop.

If, for some stupid reason, an application is running as system and decides to display a GUI to the user, ANY program can send any message it wants to that GUI.

A classic message to send is WM_TEXT to set the text of a textbox to some crazy value in an attempt to cause a buffer overflow that then runs as system.

If your application is running as a high privledeged account it SHOULD NOT display a GUI inteface to a lesser privledged user unless you display that GUI using a lower privledged account.

This is all because one of the few things in Windows that doesn't have security associated with it are window messages. It was a design decision (and arguably the right one, at the time) a long time ago, so there isn't a lot that can be done now without breaking a LOT of applications.

The only people this restriction affects are people out to do no good, and people who are dumb. :-)

This post was edited by RMD on Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 23:57.

#2 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 7/13/2003 12:24:56 PM
#16 - It's sort of the same problem Schlage has in convincing people to only use doorknobs with key locks on external doors. Unfortunately some people are still trying to get by cheaply by using the ones intended for closet doors. Is this a security issue that Schlage should address?

#3 By 531 (64.108.128.235) at 7/13/2003 3:06:17 PM
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