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Linux Is Not Ready For the Enterprise (Opinion) | |
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| Time: 07:50 EST/12:50 GMT | News Source: Internet News | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Linux and other open source projects require too much customization, and doubts about the legitimacy of open source code could get users tangled up in lawsuits. Besides, many Linux supporters are a bunch of potty-mouthed malcontents. Enterprises are better off staying away from Linux and open source -- or at least thinking through the possible liabilities, argues guest columnist Rob Enderle. | ||
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| #1 By 6859 (204.71.100.243) at 6/19/2003 10:14:34 AM |
| Give Linux 5 years. We'll see then. I mean, look at Windows 3.1...it wasn't ready for the "enterprise" either, but it was kinda useful in its own way. Maturity is the issue, Linux has just a little more growing up to do. Give it 5 years. |
| #2 By 7390 (198.246.16.251) at 6/19/2003 11:33:31 AM |
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Linux has just a little more growing up to do. Give it 5 years
And I guess that Microsoft will stand still in the mean time? And the requirements of the Enterprise will not change until then. |
| #3 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/19/2003 11:35:41 AM |
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Oh damn where is that cartoon "From my parent's basement I stab at thee!"
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| #4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/19/2003 3:34:51 PM |
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bluesky - that second article you posted pretty much confirms the other statement made in this opinion piece.
He's making some pretty broad claims, that underneath the surface are not linked together by any logical thought progression. i.e. I'm primarily talking about his drivel about the cost overruns of IT projects. Cost overruns seldom ever have to do with technology, they have to do with project scope definitions. -X- Someone should have told the 999,999,999 other companies out there making money by not using Linux. This post was edited by sodablue on Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 15:36. |
| #5 By 16451 (63.227.226.13) at 6/19/2003 6:57:25 PM |
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>>> Also don't mention orbitz or etrade. ;)
Or Amazon ;-) |
| #6 By 3339 (66.219.95.6) at 6/19/2003 8:34:59 PM |
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And yet Amazon is still a 14 billion dollar company and the largest web retailer in the world.
eBay isn't all proprietary. Their wireless servers are Debian GNU/Linux. There search engines are run on Zeus web servers (proprietary Apache). (Also, they use WebSphere for a lot of their stuff as well. I think they've migrated a lot away from Solaris.) And I can't confirm other uses but OS is definitely getting used more and more there. |
| #7 By 16451 (65.19.16.166) at 6/19/2003 9:08:28 PM |
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>>> Amazon loses money. About 3 cents per share in the last quarter
The profitability of a company and it's stock price are two totally different things. |
| #8 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 6/20/2003 12:00:07 AM |
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bluesky - "after reading the opinion piece, there's lots that I agree with"
I didn't say it wasn't a wonderfully composed troll. What I said was he made a lot of random statements, but the conclusions he draws from them do not logically progress from the statements. -X- "help me out, show me where I made any remark about other companies not making money by not using Linux." Are you for real? Go back and read your statement. You're trying to draw conclusions from minimal evidence. Just curious. Question to both bluesky and X... Have you ever had a class in logic? Do you understand the difference between deduction and induction? Any understanding of statistical sampling as it relates to identifying patterns? Just curious because you make the mistakes that the author speaks of... making sweeping broad public statements based on no factual logic. |
| #9 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 6/20/2003 12:02:04 AM |
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Hey parker... check this out. It was on the top of the netcraft website...
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.linuxworldexpo.com Windows 2000... If it's good enough for Linux World it's good enough for me! :) |
| #10 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/20/2003 10:35:39 AM |
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-X- "I made no reference that any OS is better than the other, just a comment that blows holes in the author's opinion"
How does your comment blow holes in the author's opinion? He doesn't state anywhere in the article that Linux is useless, he points to several areas where it might be useful. He just says to be careful and analyze your needs on a technical basis, not a religious basis. All you do is substantiate the authors claims by making broad generalizations. "You just crack me up the way you try to dig your self out of your wild statements." I'm glad you've cracked yourself up. Now maybe you could explain how you think you've blown holes in the author's comments in more detail. |
| #11 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/20/2003 1:22:25 PM |
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bluesky - Aww, come on! What fun is that?
-X- "He is saying it is useless for the enterprise. " Did you read why he says it's useless? "If you can't grasp from the above the author doesn't think Linux is for mission critical deployment and only has a place as a solution for small companies... Then I can't help you. Maybe someone else can help you see the holes in your own logic. " I realize that you are trying to prove him wrong by way of counter example, but his argument is not formed without acknowledgement of exceptions. That is, he's not saying it's a universal rule that nobody is using Linux. He's just saying that people should question why they are using Linux. The point is, you really haven't addressed the issues of the article. There is another article over on news.com that addresses the same point: http://news.com.com/2010-1071_3-1019336.html?tag=fd_nc_1 It basically talks about how the Linux "potty mouths" have attacked the SCO trial thing with spit and nails, but they've never really addressed the point of "What if SCO is right?" Any company faced with a similar lawsuit would address it in the form of "Are they right? If so, how did this happen? How can we prevent it from happening in the future? What can we do now to mitigate our losses?" It is the Linux "potty mouth" response that destroys Linux credibility. This is the point that this Giga researcher article is addressing. I just find it interesting, as I used to hold the same point of view as the Linux "potty mouths", but over time as I've matured and gained experience I've come to realize that I held those beliefs not because "I obviously know more than the suits", but because I didn't see the big picture that the suits see. One you see the big picture, you realize that there are other realities directing the flow of mankind than physics. |
| #12 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/20/2003 3:35:46 PM |
| linuxhippie - Are they doing this in public as part of public advocacy? |
| #13 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 6/20/2003 9:24:37 PM |
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linuxhippie - I have threatened to throw my computer out the window a couple of times, does that reflect poorly on your companies image?
bluesky - Naw, I have a different point of view, but I'm not a potty-mouth. |
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