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Time:
14:53 EST/19:53 GMT | News Source:
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Posted By: Robert Stein |
Some users who send a lot of e-mail through Hotmail are now receiving messages that they have sent "the maximum number of messages in a 24 hour period." Click the link above for a screenshot of the error. If you know the actual limit imposed, please comment below.
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#1 By
3 (81.96.65.157)
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3/13/2003 3:45:36 PM
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#2 - Depends if you get the new widescreen iMac!
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#2 By
1288 (209.50.102.237)
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3/13/2003 3:46:42 PM
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This is just another limitation to the free Hotmail users. If you pay the $29.99 (or whatever it is) a year for Hotmail, I'm sure you won't get this message.
Forget Hotmail, switch to MyWay.com -- no ads, banners, or pop-ups ANYWHERE on their site!!! You can't beat that!
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#3 By
7390 (198.246.16.251)
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3/13/2003 4:10:49 PM
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nomdlev, what does hotmail having a maximum usage limit have to do with switching to an iMac? Does anyone know what this limit is?
ComputerExpert since you don't use hotmail what are you "beyotching" about?
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#4 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
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3/13/2003 5:47:30 PM
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I think by far the greatest feature of Hotmail over other similar free email services is the tight integration with Outlook Express--not POP or IMAP, but Hotmail-specific integration. If you read a message in OE, it counts it as read in the web interface; if you delete a message, it goes into the Deleted Items folder on your Hotmail account (not to a local store); etc. It's totally in sync with the Hotmail account, but it works quite a bit faster (doesn't have to refresh the page, local spell checking, etc.) and allows you to move the messages via drag-and-drop to local storage. If they combined the automatic virus-checking and an interface to adjust your options, that would make it almost feature-complete, but it's really slick as-in. You can also check multiple Hotmail (and other) accounts with it.
#9, Hotmail is handling far more email that it did when it was based on Solaris (again, not Linux), and the messages also go through far faster. I've tested it numerous times, and the delivery time now is almost instantaneous, whereas before--as many people here probably remember--sometimes it would take several minutes or even hours before messages were delivered. Test it yourself, if you're in doubt. It's also very reliable--I always use it as one test to verify if reported email problems are our problem or a client's. I'm guessing the real reasons for it are to stop spammers.
Anyhow, does anyone know the actual limit??? I thought that was the request.
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#5 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
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3/13/2003 7:36:38 PM
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How many people are sending more than 500 legitimate messages per day??? ("One message to a maximum of 50 e-mail addresses" seems to imply 1 message = 1 message, regardless of the number of recipients....)
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#6 By
13797 (216.23.160.47)
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3/13/2003 8:53:02 PM
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Yahoo will eventually charge for all their services if the ad revenue doesn't bounce back. Even now they have Yahoo Mail Plus for 29.99 to "enhance" their email revenue.
They had two straight quarters of good profits in 2002, those ending with June and September. I don't see numbers for December, 2002, though.
http://biz.yahoo.com/fin/l/y/yhoo.html
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#7 By
3653 (209.149.57.116)
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3/13/2003 10:37:22 PM
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ComputerExpert - "I use Yahoo! Mail, and they never use tactics like this, in fact I can use Outlook to retrieve my yahoo mail for free."
Wow, and I can do the exact same thing with Hotmail. Oh, and I can also check my hotmail with Outlook Express too.
Oh, and those "tactics" that Yahoo doesn't use? Uh, lets just take a look at Yahoo's "tactics"...
- $10-$50 per year for extra storage ( http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/storage/storage-01.html )
- account deactivation if its "unused"
- crippled free accounts (compare the crippled free version with the paid version - http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/plus/about/about-01.html )
nomdlev - if you dont like hotmail, why dont you use a FREE .mac account. Oh wait, its not free anymore. It'll only cost you $8.33/month or $100/year. Sucka! Steve Jobs' is a rapin, and you are a lettin him.
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#8 By
2201 (194.205.219.2)
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3/14/2003 4:58:15 AM
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Yahoo! and Hotmail have their advantages and disadvantages, but rather than paying for them, the best option is to pay for a domain and set up an e-mail address from that. It costs barely much more than paying Yahoo! or Hotmail for the extra facilities and you get infinitely more space, more options, more flexibility.
For the record, Yahoo! have started charging for the priviedge to use POP to download e-mail messages (using an e-mail client) for @yahoo.com ONLY! @yahoo.ie and @yahoo.co.uk addresses are NOT charged. I should know... I have access to both and they still work free of charge.
#17 Hotmail uses the HTTP protocol, very similar to IMAP (which does almost exactly the same thing as you described). Some free e-mail providers do offer IMAP as a protocol you can use. So in that respects, Hotmail isn't necessarily better.
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#9 By
13998 (217.122.34.74)
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3/14/2003 9:07:32 AM
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I know what I am going to say is a bit irrelevant to the subject, but I believe it says enough about Microsoft practices:
- Open an account, give a US address. Ask for extra storage. Cost: $29.99
FOR THE SAME SERVICE
- Open an account, give Netherlands (Holland) address. Ask for extra storage. Cost EUR 31.99! Almost $35.
I can't find any reasonable explaination other than that they want to cheat the people.
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#10 By
7754 (216.160.8.41)
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3/14/2003 1:04:34 PM
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baarod, I took a look at that, too, but was turned off by:
"Many issues with NetMail are discovered and corrected through MyRealBox before they make their way into the commercially available product. Because of the testing nature of this site, service outages are to be expected from time to time as problems are discovered and diagnosed. " (from: http://www.myrealbox.com/a?.BQ.EE.Z1QQ.d)
How reliable has it been?
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#11 By
13998 (217.122.34.74)
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3/15/2003 10:14:30 AM
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#33 They converted the US dollar to Euro ages ago, and even after the devaluation of US dollar against Euro they simply didn't change the rate. (forgot? I don't think so)
Your implications are simply wrong since my home adress has nothing to do with the use of service. I mean... it is just getting some extra space...
If what you said were to be right the system HAD TO based on IP detection not simply asking the home adress. When extra cost (tax, whatever) is involved, you don't just simply 'trust' the customer that s/he will enter the correct country. Example, when 128-bit encryption was not allowed outside the US and Canada, Microsoft didn't ask for your home adress, it simply checked your and IP did not allow you to download 128-bit version of Internet Explorer.
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#12 By
3653 (209.149.57.116)
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3/15/2003 3:01:29 PM
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RickNL - whats you point? Are you saying that MS shouldn't be allowed to vary prices by region?
I'm just trying to figure out what you're getting at.
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#13 By
13998 (217.122.34.74)
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3/16/2003 4:42:17 AM
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#37 The point is not charging by region. The point is 'false' Euro conversion rate. If you don't realise this and if you live in a country where Euro is used, they charge you ~USD35. On the other hand if you register yourself as someone living in the US (even if you don't) you pay USD29.99, afterwards you can always change your country.
This post was edited by RickNL on Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 04:44.
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#14 By
3653 (209.149.57.116)
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3/16/2003 7:26:05 PM
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Aha, I thought I picked up on that attitude.
So, they shouldn't be allowed to set the price any way they want to? Its their product... seems to me... they have every right to do whatever the hell they want to do. If it hurts business, well thats their fault. Your job and my job is to decide whether or not to buy it. Its their job to set the price for THEIR product.
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