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| Time: 08:16 EST/13:16 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Some people are surprised that Microsoft is opening up the Passport source code, as if the technology had a chance of success without drastic changes (see )www.eweek.com/links). Others—mainly those who work at Microsoft—say Passport has been wildly successful. Passport is integrated into Windows XP, and it's required for users to log in to Hotmail and MSN—which means millions use it every day. | ||
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| #1 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 10/22/2002 8:33:59 AM |
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If you go by pure account numbers, then I'd have to say it appears successful, but it's _artificially_ successful.
That's because Microsoft basically forces you to use a passport account any time you visit their sites these days, whether you want one or not. I'd say I have about 8 accounts because I use them once and forget them. All I care about is what I'm there for at the moment. I don't give a hoot about having a passport account. TL |
| #2 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 10/22/2002 1:56:18 PM |
| #7 - Most people don't understand even the most basic software security concepts, so if they don't trust passport, chances are it's out of ignorance not reason. |
| #3 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 10/22/2002 2:35:48 PM |
| RMD, even though the industry and lots of people want single sign-on, the people who truly understand security know its a horrible idea. I don't know why other OSes and orgs haven't realized the way to overcome the hassle of multiple IDs, passwords is to create a security feature in the system so that each computer can store all ids and passwords under the user id and password and pass the appropriate distinct username and password to each web site only when requested. Seems the best solution to the hassle, and the most secure answer to the question as well. |
| #4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/22/2002 3:52:43 PM |
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FinancialWiz - But then these same people think the status quo is perfectly safe, so one wonders about the quality of their wisdom.
sodajerk - Oh sure... make it really easy for the thief who steals your laptop. |
| #5 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 10/22/2002 4:42:22 PM |
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King of MS Ass-Kissing, I thought it was a rule of security (MS's rules) that if physical and admin login access to your computer is given over to someone, there can be no security hole because there was no security in the first place?
But whatever, you need to come up with a lame ass rebuttal even when you know you don't have one, even when you know everyone sees through your weak-@ss dodge.... Boy, you're an idiot. I would imagine that if we were to say: it's a good security rule to use different passwords so that access isn't given over to everything if one password is compromised (which I am saying)... we can probably agree, and take it for granted, that it's also a good security principle to not let someone walk away with your machine. Idiot. This post was edited by sodajerk on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 16:58. |
| #6 By 3653 (63.162.177.140) at 10/22/2002 5:54:48 PM |
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Ignoring sodajerk feels so good. I saw his name and didn't read a single word. REFRESHING!
TechLarry, if you don't log into those hotmail accounts... they die after 30 days. And you said... "That's because Microsoft basically forces you to use a passport account any time you visit their sites these days, whether you want one or not." So, Microsoft can't provide a login for their OWN systems now? Why not? I hope you are aware that AOL/TW is doing the exact same thing at www.screenname.com http://my.screenname.aol.com/_cqr/homePg/hpController/controller.psp?siteId=snshomepage http://my.screenname.aol.com/help/about.tmpl?siteId=schoolsportscom Evil? No. Convenient? Definitely. Worth the FREE price? Obviously. |
| #7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/22/2002 11:57:44 PM |
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mooresa56 much as I'd love to agree with you, I can't.
On sodajerk - Just ignore him. Don't say it, just do it. If you think he is a raving lunatic, just don't pay him any mind. Don't feed the trolls. Besides, you sound like an elementary school kid with his fingers in his ears saying "I can't hear you!" when you post like you do. On hotmail accounts - the account is deactivated after 30 days. The passport is not deleted. How do I know? I've reactivated in the last three months two or more hotmail accounts that hadn't been accessed in more than 30 days. There was no mail in them, but the Passport was very much still alive. |
| #8 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/23/2002 12:02:49 AM |
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jerk, not meaning to pick a fight here....
There are a few issues I see with your idea, so maybe I'm not understanding it well. If all the stuff were saved on one computer, you'd still have to remember it all if you used a different computer. At a minimum I have two daily use computers. With SSI in the cloud, I can go to any computer and still only remember one username/password. The other issue I see is hacking. I think sodablue's point is really valid. If someone steals my laptop, then haven't they just stolen all my username/password combos? If the data is stored in the cloud, someone touching your system doesn't matter (unless you save your username/password on your system somewhere). If it is stored in the cloud, the issue is whether or not the cloud is safe. On that point, you'll probably say it is safer on a million clients than on one server. I might agree with you on that point. I'm still thinking about it. |
| #9 By 3653 (63.162.177.140) at 10/23/2002 12:19:34 PM |
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Thanks for the scolding Bob. Stubear and Zooker seemed to appreciate the sentiment.
I would say anytime your passport becomes inactive and another person can sign up for the account... then the account is DEAD. This post was edited by mooresa56 on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 12:23. |
| #10 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/23/2002 5:36:27 PM |
| The issue is only you can reactivate the account. First of all, it is your hotmail account that becomes inactive NOT your passport. Secondly, your hotmail account can only be reactivated by the passport that created it to begin with. This is a huge distinction. This is deactivating NOT deleting. Once again, this is the hotmail account only NOT the passport. |
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