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  Is Linux Really More Secure Than Windows?
Time: 17:31 EST/22:31 GMT | News Source: E-Commerce Times | Posted By: Alex Harris

Thanks to Louis for the heads up on this story.

Microsoft has organized a huge security program as a result of vocal complaints from users, while the Linux effort is, in Eric Hemmendinger's words, "less disciplined but more timely." Ramen, Slapper, Scalper and Mighty may sound like Santa's new team of reindeer, but they are creatures far lower down the evolutionary ladder -- and much less welcome. These are worms that have infiltrated Linux servers in recent months, commandeering the servers for use in distributed denial-of-service attacks. Linux enthusiasts who once believed they were less vulnerable to attack than Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) users have begun to wonder whether they were overly optimistic.

But it is a mistake to think that one operating environment is inherently more risky than another, according to Eric Hemmendinger, research director at Aberdeen Group. The number of security flaws in software, he said, depends largely on the software's age. Mainframe operating systems, which have been perfected over decades, have very few security flaws. Security problems on mainframes tend to be caused by administrators' errors. Likewise, Unix, which has been popular since the 1970s, has also had most of its bugs shaken out.

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#1 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 6:12:00 PM
The fact that Linux isn't UNIX makes a big difference, especially if your argument is that the code for UNIX is bug free. Why? Well, quite obviously, because Linux was/is written from scratch. Any bugs that may have been worked out of previous UNIXes, quite possibly exist in Linux.

Personally, I think it is foolish to compare UNIXes since there are varying degrees of compatibility between them AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, BSDs, etc. Linux itself should be called an OS either. It is a category of OSes as is UNIX. Linux is really RedHat, Debian, Slackware, etc. to the degree that any Linux distro cutomizes their distro, they have created a new OS.

#2 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 6:38:48 PM
Why do fools like you even post, eastbam?

#3 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 10/11/2002 7:18:53 PM
eastbam, you might start by reading the article...

#4 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 7:23:50 PM
If you think your answer was honest, then back it up with facts. Specifically compare the security vulnerabilities of the two. Then compare the severity of those vulnerabilities. After doing that, you'll likely determine that you did not come to the correct conclusion.

I am not a fool. I'm rather informed, but if you can teach me that I'm wrong, please do so. I'm all for learning.

#5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 7:36:48 PM
Ok, I'll stand by my claim that you're a fool.

#6 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 10/11/2002 7:41:37 PM
east, unless you are going to add something intelligent to the conversation, don't even come back.

#7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 7:58:12 PM
http://www.sans.org/top20/#index

Just a little list of vulnerabilities in UNIX and Linux and Windows systems.

The only way that (Linux == secure) == true is if secure == false.

#8 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 8:22:01 PM
post civilly, beeyp, or don't post at all.

#9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 9:17:31 PM
lol

#10 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/11/2002 10:15:50 PM
Tee hee.

#11 By 7797 (64.192.164.165) at 10/11/2002 10:50:39 PM
systems are ONLY as secure as the MORON who configures/operates them

Windows is geard to be configured and operated by ANY idiot who wouldnt even know how to apply a patch on a Linux system.

I would dare to think that not many windows admins could truly administer a linux network, but that most linux admins could administer a windows one.

Thats why windows "seems" less secure. Because you have bigger idiots sitting behind the wheel.

Technically who knows whats more secure.. just let the people choose whatever the hell they feel comfortable with.

This post was edited by tgnb on Friday, October 11, 2002 at 22:52.

#12 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 10/12/2002 12:21:40 AM
beeyp - Unfortunately I left my redhat numbers in my other pair of pants.

BTW, I'd just like to point out that most vulnerabilities identified as IIS problems are really with ISAPI filters that ship with IIS.

#13 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 10/12/2002 1:01:24 AM
so, this was a pretty big week... palm lost their last differentiator (price) and Windows is being given some credit for being more secure than Linux.

Sands are a shifting...

#14 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 10/12/2002 12:46:10 PM
beeyp - Hmm, I'm not having any problems...
http://www.sodablue.org/Computers/Windows2000/Reliability.htm

Why do Linux zealots always resort to using examples from BSD to justify their arguments? Seems rather contradictory, doesn't it?

And looking down your list, I don't see a single site of any signifigance. Like esoteric, it's easy to get a high uptime if you just leave the box in the corner and don't touch it.

#15 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/13/2002 10:14:09 PM
I think I'll agree with RANT on this one.

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