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  Bluetooth: Proof that Microsoft is innovating
Time: 08:31 EST/13:31 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Judging by my e-mail, many of you are convinced that Microsoft has done nothing but steal and cheat its way to success. While some in Redmond might admit to stealing an idea or two, there are a lot of Microsoft folks who would take exception to the "nothing but" part. For example, the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP), which will undoubtedly play a significant role in the Internet's future, is an idea hatched in Microsoft's labs. That's pretty innovative, if you ask me.

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#1 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 9/30/2002 12:14:23 PM
sphbecker, the maximum speed for Bluetooth now is 721Kbits/sec. An 800x600x24-bit color image is 11,520,000 bits--in other words, less than one image per second. That's why there are no Bluetooth displays.

Actually, because the Remote Desktop Protocol has some intelligence behind it (caching, passing characters as glyphs, etc.), the performance is exceptional over a LAN connection. You won't be playing any games on it, of course, but as you can see by any method, without a huge wireless pipe (and likely some significant intelligence besides), that's just not possible.

#2 By 8883 (64.253.108.243) at 9/30/2002 2:21:47 PM
#2, you're gonna need to update your facts. Dave Winer and Microsoft developed XML-RPC together. Microsoft continued to flesh out the idea with UserLand (Winer's company) and Developmentor, and eventually came out with the more complicated SOAP. Winer actually wasn't allowed to say that Microsoft had anything to do with XML-RPC until SOAP came out.


#3 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 9/30/2002 3:10:25 PM
No, stu you should check your facts. Winer did XML-RPC with IBM and DevelopMentor and Lotus and was "almost" solely responsible for it. IBM was satisfied with RPC, but Dave felt there was more to do, which is why he went to Microsoft... they were interested in expanding RPC.

Of course, now Dave fights for RPC support instead of just SOAP. And everyone but Frontier, IBM, and Dave have abandoned XML-RPC while he and others continue to expand and evolve it.

"'Course if you could get Microsoft to support some important non-MS protocol, maybe get them to drop their streaming media war with Real, I'd nominate you for a Nobel prize. :-)"
Well, I consider XML-RPC to be a Microsoft-UserLand-Developmentor spec, but it evolved outside of Microsoft, and I think there's a very good chance that they'll support it in their system software. I'll keep some space open on my bookshelf for a Nobel Prize."

This post was edited by sodajerk on Monday, September 30, 2002 at 15:20.

#4 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 9/30/2002 3:29:28 PM
By the way, aren't UPnP Templates very similar to the Bluetooth Profiles that should be shit-canned? Why, yes, they are... and also suck. Where's the part about innovation from MS? This vision of PANs could be read about in 1996 in InternetWeek.

#5 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/30/2002 3:48:55 PM
becker, personally, I would not want a completely wireless system, there are some things that, I think, wires will always be better for, such as sound and video quality.

#6 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 9/30/2002 5:01:36 PM
Its all a waste, until we get that darn electricity to float through the air.

#7 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/30/2002 9:56:18 PM
Richard:

Bluetooth isn't a networking protocol, and is only made for short-range communication, so security isn't exactly an issue.... however, you can easily implement security measures on a 802.11b network, although, 802.11b was built with security in mind, and was really the first true stab at Wi-Fi.

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