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| Time: 16:05 EST/21:05 GMT | News Source: InfoWorld | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Microsoft's Dan'l Lewin, corporate vice president for .Net business development, touted the company's .Net platform for development of Web services, stressing its interoperability while criticizing the rival Java platform. Presenting a keynote address at InfoWorld's Next-Generation Web Services II: The Applications conference here, Lewin stressed that .Net is a key component of how Microsoft is addressing Web services standards and that Microsoft's development stack will interoperate with the rival J2EE (Java 2 Enterprise Edition) stack. | ||
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| #1 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/21/2002 10:28:02 PM |
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nom:
Please, if you are going to be that incredibly stupid, don't even bother to post. |
| #2 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/21/2002 10:40:01 PM |
| Actually, I don't know much about AppleScript, but I know a great deal about .NET, and I know that what you said is completlely stupid.... and now that I've read some of your other comments, I can see how much of a troll you are. |
| #3 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/21/2002 10:54:39 PM |
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No, I'm not an MS follower.... and yes, you are a troll.
.NET is an entire API, not just a "scripting language" that has support for pretty much every major language in use today, as well as other, much less used, languages. |
| #4 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/21/2002 11:04:36 PM |
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nom:
No, if you would perhaps LEARN something about the computing industry, you would realize how little you actually know right now, and how much of a troll you truely are. |
| #5 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/21/2002 11:14:26 PM |
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nom, sorry bro, you're dead wrong. If the CLI is "a thinly desquised scripting language" then, C++ and Java are too. They are thinly disguised scripting languages that wrap assembly.
Before we proceed, why don't you give us the definition of a scripting language. |
| #6 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 9/21/2002 11:16:10 PM |
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Yes, I'm using this to increase my post count, yet I'm one of the original users, and have one of the lowest counts....
Furthermore, it's impossible for .NET to be a scripting language, because it's not a language at all. |
| #7 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/21/2002 11:17:27 PM |
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You can't even make full applications using AppleScript. It's main function is to script OS and application events so you can perform actions without user interaction.
This is nothing compared to .NET and the languages that support it. You might as well call C/C++ a scripting language. If you want scripting on Windows, you should check out WSH and WMI on http://msdn.microsoft.com . |
| #8 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/21/2002 11:21:01 PM |
| No problem. |
| #9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/21/2002 11:23:08 PM |
| You rule, nom! I'm so stoked that not everybody who visits this site is so inflexible in their opinions. |
| #10 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/21/2002 11:25:20 PM |
| I don't understand WMI. I guess this is because I never have had a need to automate Windows 2000 administrative tasks. What is the difference between WSH, WMI, and ADSI. I don't see why anything other than WSH needs to exist. Perhaps WMI came to being because it is only for Windows 2000 and up? ADSI seems to be related to WMI and is the means for querying Active Directory? |
| #11 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/21/2002 11:41:30 PM |
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/wmi_start_page.asp
WMI runs on 9x and up. It's only included in 2000 and up, though. Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) is the Microsoft implementation of Web-Based Enterprise Management (WBEM), which is an industry initiative to develop a standard technology for accessing management information in an enterprise environment. WMI uses the Common Information Model (CIM) industry standard to represent systems, applications, networks, devices, and other managed components in an enterprise environment This post was edited by n4cer on Saturday, September 21, 2002 at 23:43. |
| #12 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/21/2002 11:46:51 PM |
| Interesting. |
| #13 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 9/22/2002 1:27:47 AM |
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nomdlev - I do understand both AppleScript and .NET, and you are being pretty silly if you think that AppleScript is even close to .NET in terms of being an application framework.
In addition, it would take Apple a *lot* longer than three months to build the abilities of .NET into AppleScript, at which point it really would no longer be AppleScript. It took Microsoft 2 years, thousands of programmers, and billions of dollars to create .NET. Are you so dilluted by Apple propoganda to think that Apple could do the same with a small fraction of the programers, time, and money? Please. |
| #14 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 9/22/2002 1:28:42 AM |
| Opps... sorry, I didn't see your last post nomdlev. Glad to see you've seen through your informant's baloney. :-) |
| #15 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/22/2002 4:19:20 AM |
| Kinda slow! Check out the other thread for today. We're up to 93 posts already. |
| #16 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 9/22/2002 12:57:14 PM |
| #22 - Hrm... ya, perhaps you're right. The earliest development document I've found says August 1999, but they probably had been planning it for at least 6 months. |
| #17 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/22/2002 3:58:15 PM |
| Wasn't "Cool" C#? |
| #18 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 9/22/2002 8:11:12 PM |
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nomdlev - Two thumbs up!
BobSmith - WSH is a scripting environment ala VBA only self contained. WMI is a set of COM(?) interfaces which can be used to query computer objects to check and manage their configurations. WMI is basically an object model for a whole bunch of disparate configuration items from the registry and elsewhere. ADSI is a set of COM(?) interfaces which can be used to query the Active Directory or other LDAP services and even NT4 domains to determine user/group memberships and such. You can't really use ADSI or WMI without WSH or some other language environment(C++, VB, .NET, etc.). |
| #19 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 9/22/2002 8:15:43 PM |
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JWM - Check out this article...
http://www.microsoft.com/msj/defaultframe.asp?page=/msj/1297/complus2/complus2.htm&nav=/msj/1297/newnav.htm It's from December 1997, it supposedly describes COM+ as it will exist in NT 5.0... but it really describes aspects of .NET. |
| #20 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/22/2002 10:02:20 PM |
| Quite an interesting article JWM. When WFC was the thing to use, I was writing pure Java and didn't touch it. I never knew how much it was able to do. |
| #21 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/23/2002 6:58:52 AM |
| I noticed the executable names were the same - devenv.exe. : - ) |
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