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  Windows Media 9 Comes Alive in L.A
Time: 13:38 EST/18:38 GMT | News Source: Internet News | Posted By: Byron Hinson

After months of teasing and dropping hints around its digital media strategy, Microsoft will finally showcase a beta of Windows Media 9 Series, a media player that looks to turn PCs into TVs. When Bill Gates officially lifts the wraps off the software formerly known as "Corona" Wednesday in Los Angeles, it will signal the next stage in the battle between Microsoft and RealNetworks to a share of the eyes and wallets of PC users worldwide.

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#1 By 7746 (213.93.165.242) at 9/4/2002 3:40:28 PM
Realist,

I read the article on theage.com. Basically they are right. But ... we - the inviduals - the world population - will never allow Microsoft or the Media industry go so far. They will try, for sure, but so far every copy protection how advanced it might look like has failed in real world.

The media industry has failed so far to stop MP3; it is growing every days. In fact, electronic companies nowadays offers MP3 players. Same for CD-RW discs.

Remember that somewhere the music has to the speakers and the video to your screen. It will be possible to "grap" it there for a long time. From there it is back to "old' techniques like MP3 and DiVX where the music industry has no control over.

It will be funny to watch that DRM techniques will be introduced in electronics in the comming years; from your TV, CD-player or whatever. We will fight back by "Modding" our equipment; much like now is happening with putting a MOD-chip in game consoles. Some governments will make laws preventing so, but then it still will be done illegally. It is not that governments can stop millions of people breaking the law. Will they put you in jail for modding your DVD-player? Not likely.

You already see that the media industry is trying to push ISP to block certain ports used by KAZAA or any other popular P2P network. They also try to convince ISP to give them the names of their users from who they know they download music and movies. I really don't understand why AOL/Time Warner still has any user - they likely already are watching you and placed you on a list - waiting for the moment to take legal action against you.

Somewhere they media industry will push to hard; people will fight back - they will use the competitors autorities to proof the the media industry put to much money in their pockets. Prooving that everyone had paid to much for media. Think of cases against Visa and Mastercard.

See also yesterday in Greece. There was a boycot towards shop-owners taking to much advance of the introduction of the Euro and use that moment to raise prices extraordianary.
Show-owners must have felt it - sales was down 70%.

#2 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/4/2002 5:14:21 PM
It is disgusting to me to hear people talk about flagrant disregard for the laws of their country. There should be talk of "fighting back" against things that are wrong. A company legally protecting its assets is anything but wrong. I find it interesting that people are so appalled by the dishonesty of the executives of such large and now fallen corporations as Enron and WorldCom, and yet they proudly flaunt their own dishonesty in littler things like pirating software, pirating music, pirating movies, stealing cable TV, etc. I'm quite disturbed that few see that dishonesty is dishonesty no matter the level.

#3 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/4/2002 5:26:48 PM
I just read the first article Realist. I couldn't be happier that such technologies are in the works. Considering the apparent (based on the comments on this site anyway) tendency of people to steal and violate license agreements, it's about time the agreements had teeth. People need to understand that they don't have a right to do whatever the hell the want. If you buy a license to do something, that is all you are allowed to do. If you want to do more, you should pay for a license that allows you to do more. If you violate your license, it should be terminated.

As far as this censorship business goes, that is a little foolish in my mind. It doesn't make sense for a company that produces content to prevent that content from being viewed. What the author didn't state was that the governemnt would have to pressure the content owner to revoke licenses. If the content ownder decides to no longer offer their own content for consumption, it is their right to do so. It is just as much their right to do so, as it is for a publishing company today to let a book go out of print.

I respect a company's right to control its assets. I respect also, the individual's right of free speech. I happen to think that most people who speak against DRM are dead wrong. I still respect their right to voice their opinions as I hope they respect my right to do so in support of DRM.

#4 By 7721 (4.40.147.231) at 9/4/2002 6:00:14 PM
Thank you, Bob Smith, for your comments. I agree with you completely and couldn't have said it better.

#5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/4/2002 8:06:50 PM
ssfreitas - Out of curiousity, does Windows Media Player 9 do what you claim it does... i.e. prevent you from creating compressed versions of your music?

If not, why did you bother to post?

Oh, same question goes to Realist.

If all we are talking about here is companies choosing to distribute streaming media using DRM, then that's their choice. If the customers don't want that, they won't pay for it. Same situation DivX got into.

This post was edited by sodablue on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 at 20:07.

#6 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 9/5/2002 2:27:06 AM
As opposed to doing it with Fraunhoffer (mp3) or Sony (MD) or Dolby Labs (audio decoders) compatible devices, etc., etc.?
No matter the standard, there's almost always going to be a company/group of companies whose rules must be followed. They aren't going to spend money developing a technology just to give it away, and content providers won't spend money just to give away their works.

The amount of protection offered by DRM varies with the content provider. If a provider restricts their content more than you care for, just stay away from that provider. If enough people do the same, eventually they will get the hint, like some of the online music services did when people didn't like their initial offerings.

With the way things are now, however, there has to be something like DRM out there to provide an incentive for many content providers to even take a chance at online distribution.
How would you like it if you had something you wanted to sell, but it was copied and redistributed as soon as (or before) you released it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to excuse the behavior of the RIAA/MPAA etc., but technology such as DRM does have valid uses whether you are a large distributor, small business, or an individual/small group.

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