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Netscape 7.0 Final Released! | |
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| Time: 12:08 EST/17:08 GMT | News Source: Warp2Search | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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| #1 By 116 (129.116.86.41) at 8/29/2002 2:20:45 PM |
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Choice is good. However I still don't like Mozilla/Netscape. If it rendered everything exactly the same as IE I would like it a lot. Thats one and all in all it does a pretty good job.
The thing I can't get past with this application is its interface. The built their retarded XUL interface which is cross platform/ powerful bla bla I have head the arguments before. Thats great and all however no one wants that. What we all want is the normal widgets that come with our platform. It absolutely bugs the crap out of me when someone decides they are graphic geniuses and make their own interface. Their is a reason all windows apps look similar. Dont recreate the wheel. If I am in OS X I want the browser to look like an os X app. However choice is good. This choice isn't for me though. |
| #2 By 4379 (66.54.164.122) at 8/29/2002 2:24:11 PM |
| Netscape should just go into the toiletpaper business |
| #3 By 1288 (209.50.102.237) at 8/29/2002 2:28:05 PM |
| So if anyone has installed it, what version of Mozilla is it running on? |
| #4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 8/29/2002 2:38:44 PM |
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bob670 - Who told you choice is bad?
I just told you to stop whining about having no choice when you clearly do. |
| #5 By 2960 (156.80.64.120) at 8/29/2002 4:04:08 PM |
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Realist response in #12 is right on.
Corporate America would never adopt Mozilla, an Open Source Project. At least not the large established one's. No, those running Netscape, IF they are staying with Netscape, will indeed use Netscape 7.0 because it is a 'branded' product that they can get corporate level support for. There's nothing wrong with Mozilla. I use it. But it's not a corporate product. TL |
| #6 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 8/29/2002 4:40:12 PM |
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bob670 - Heh. For someone who doesn't care about my responses, they sure do encourage you to respond. :-)
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| #7 By 415 (68.54.10.120) at 8/29/2002 7:50:58 PM |
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Netscape/Mozilla gobbles crusty stinking testicles!
Don't be a gobbler... ;-) |
| #8 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/29/2002 8:02:43 PM |
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bob670, you say "It was actually directed at a few others who thought that all development and consideration of Mozilla/Netscape should stop because an insignifigant amount of people used the browser."
If I recall I was a major contributor to the stop development argument. I wasn't arguing for the end of the Mozilla project. I was arguing for the end of web developers worrying about how sites appeared in Mozilla (I guess I should say Gecko, though I could just say non IE) browsers. My statement still stands that 3.4% of the market is not significant enough to worry about. As for Netscape 7. I'm still annoyed that I can't manipulate the toolbars the same way I can in IE. It feels like a very clunky interface. I have my "file | edit | view ..." Forward, back, stop, refresh...(small icons, no text) and address bar all next to each other. This maximizes my screen real estate. I'd love to do that in Netscape. That is far more important to me than tabbed browsing. I can always alt-tab to go from window to window, but there is nothing I can do in Netcape (other than hide a toolbar altogether) to get that real estate back. The other thing that bugs me about the netscape setup is the installation of icons everywhere. Two on the destop (one for NS 7 the other for AOL), one on quick launch, two on the all users start menu, two in the program/netcape 7 directory. I don't want or need AOL icons everywhere. I also don't want or need 4 icons for netscape. A max of two (one in programs/netscape 7) and one on the desktop (though I hate it when folks put stuff on my desktop without asking) would be quite sufficient. Kudos to the developers for producing the browser. It doesn't offer anything compelling enough to make me switch back it from IE though. Most of it feels like IE catch up to me. Even its almost most full CSS support doesn't interest me too much, since most sites are designed for it. Perhaps if AOL gecko-ifies their Windows client we'll see a change in web content authoring. I'm not holding my breath though. |
| #9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/29/2002 8:05:16 PM |
| Did you even have a point IronClad? Posts like that don't do anything to support your opinion. |
| #10 By 415 (68.54.10.120) at 8/30/2002 12:48:24 AM |
| Bob, just trying to lighten this place up a bit... however my point is that no matter what I or anyone else says, people will believe what they want. Is all the bickering really worth it? |
| #11 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/30/2002 2:07:05 AM |
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http://gamersdot.org/compair.php claims full CSS 1 support in Mozilla 1.0. That is not accurate accourding to mozilla.org. http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/bugspecs/REC-CSS1.html is the CSS1 spec annotated with Mozilla's bugs.
Stating what you've stated doesn't show which browser better supports which standards. Perhaps stating of the 235 elements of CSS 1, Mozilla 1.0 correctly parses 220 of them and IE 6 179 of them would be more helpful. In like manner, you could do that for DOM support. Why should I or anyone else take your word for it that one browser more fully implements the standards than another? I'm not trying to flame you here, but I've heard far too much recently about Mozilla's flawless CSS 1 imlementation and that is not true. Since that is not true it causes me to doubt other claims about the browser. |
| #12 By 3 (62.253.128.4) at 8/30/2002 7:17:42 AM |
| I may be one of the few but I actually quite like Netscape 7! |
| #13 By 37 (66.168.26.39) at 8/30/2002 7:52:57 AM |
| Byron! Are you smoking hooch? :-) |
| #14 By 3465 (68.48.197.62) at 8/30/2002 8:47:57 AM |
| I don't know about the windows version, but the Mac version for OS X(Jaguar on my machine baby!) is sweeeet! |
| #15 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/30/2002 8:53:38 AM |
| You're entitled to your opinion, Byron. how do you like all of the AOL icons? |
| #16 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/30/2002 11:32:58 AM |
| lol |
| #17 By 3 (62.253.128.4) at 8/30/2002 11:34:17 AM |
| #30 - I like them the same as i like the hotmail and messenger ones with MS products - not a lot. |
| #18 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 8/30/2002 11:39:30 AM |
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I never said it was a yucky browser, just that I don't like the AOL icons. I'd never thought to compare that to the MSN, Hotmail, etc links. At least in thoses cases, the only appear in IE favorites, not all of your start menu and in other browsers (unless they import IE's favorites).
FUD is interesting. One side uses it against the other. To retaliate, since nobody really likes to hear the truth, they FUD in response. That's why I like asking for quotes, sources, documentation so I can have a reasonable discussion and have as much fact as possible. I'm not sure who the bitter losers are that you are referring to. I do know, however, that I chose to use Microsoft products long before I found Internet news groups. I likely continue to use them when I stop reading such newsgroups. I really doubt that I'll get much validation for my opinions here, since much of the conversation (as well as the articles) are FUD and not fact. |
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