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Windows Vista - 64-bit in the Mainstream | |
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| Time: 16:06 EST/21:06 GMT | News Source: Channel 9 | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner | ||
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Gary Schare and Bruce Burns sit down (well, sort of, Bruce stands, Gary leans) with us to talk about the sudden uptake of the latest Windows 64 bit client OS. It's very encouraging that Windows 64 is finding its way onto consumer client systems and into mainstream computing. This spike in uptake also poses some challenges for ISVs who are not 64 bit "ready". 32 bit Windows applications should just work on 64 bit Windows, right? Well, sort of. Tune in. | ||
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| #1 By 16302 (64.201.211.159) at 8/14/2008 6:31:26 PM |
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ISVs that aren't 64-bit ready are dinosaurs ready for some Darwinian natural selection... 64-bit Windows has been released since early 2005 and in beta long before then. The business of an ISV is to build applications for computers, so ISVs that are more than 3 years behind the times do not deserve to live in an open market. Our industry is filled with the corpses (or ghosts) of applications that were developed by ISVs that didn't keep up with the market - I am surprised that modern ISVs cannot learn from the mistakes of the past and continue to remake the same mistakes over and over again.
Not to pick on a current vendor or anything, but Adobe - come on - no x64 version of Photoshop yet, and more than a year to support Acrobat on Vista - not acceptable! |
| #2 By 25030 (72.78.38.181) at 8/14/2008 8:53:37 PM |
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MSFT's own ActiveX control for Genuine Windows Validation won't even install on 64 bit IE. You have to use the 32-bit version to download updates that MSFT deems too valuable for alleged thieves...
Their flagship Office is also only 32-bit. Sadly, we're further away from 64-bit than we should be. |
| #3 By 82766 (122.107.48.75) at 8/15/2008 4:20:18 AM |
| #2 - their current version of office is only 32bit... but this is because Microsoft foresee the up take in 64bit - as they say in the C9 video. I'm pretty sure Office 14 will be available in 64bit when its released later next year (or so). |
| #4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/15/2008 8:23:10 AM |
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#1: It's irrelevant how long ago x64 Windows was released. The problem was with drivers. You won't go far in x64 land with no video, sound or NIC drivers. And, as one of the other posters noted, even MS isn't offering much x64 software even now.
#3: Wait, MS isn't offering x64 Office because they see demand coming in the future? MS, being in the leader position, cannot take the position of sit and wait like a smaller vendor. They should have already pumped out x64 Office to help spur sales of x64 systems, which in turn help spur sales of x64 software. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.186.182.236) at 8/15/2008 8:59:31 AM |
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The number of reasons to run x64 Vista SP1 are numerous and simply make sense. Better security, greater addressable space, better performance, signed drivers and greater stability. I run it and I really like it. It's fast, stable and both games and apps run as well, if not better than on 32 bit versions of Windows.
From bit-tech: From top to bottom, we used Vista x64 with Service Pack 1 because it provides a uniform base for which to test over. Vista 32-bit and probably more appropriately, XP 32-bit, might still be popular, but the stigma against Vista x64 is no longer true: drivers are readily available and since Service Pack 1, we've found it works very well indeed. In a recent community poll we found half of those questioned already run Vista x64 with SP1 and a good amount of those still running a 32-bit OS were considering the upgrade sometime soon too. In this respect, like all our in house testing now - be it motherboard, graphics, heatsink or gaming - Vista x64 SP1 has become the logical standard. |
| #6 By 2960 (70.177.180.170) at 8/15/2008 2:53:01 PM |
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Until VPN vendors get off their asses (Hello CheckPoint) and issues 64-bit compatible VPN clients, 64-bit is just a dream for me.
TL |
| #7 By 138424 (98.175.24.120) at 8/16/2008 8:42:36 PM |
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Microsoft ISA (FW, VPN, Proxy, Reverse Proxy, and more) server and IAG (SSL VPN, end point detection, end point clean-up, Windows and non-Windows reverse proxy, multiple authentication Win and Non-Win and more) Server already support this. If you are considering a switch, how about using solutions that already work.
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/edgesecurity |
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