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Time:
14:25 EST/19:25 GMT | News Source:
Neowin |
Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum |
Tom Warren: Despite no announcement being made on UltimatePC.com, Microsoft have released a new sound scheme and a content pack for Windows DreamScene as part of its Windows Vista Ultimate Extras offerings for customers who purchased the Ultimate edition of Vista.
After installing the sound pack customers get Ultimate Extras Pearl and Glass sound schemes and additional Windows DreamScene Content.
For those who have been waiting for Ultimate Extras perhaps this is a sign that more is to come from the software giant.
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#1 By
9264 (69.176.21.30)
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4/22/2008 3:15:10 PM
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Wow, new sound schemes. Like those won't be all over the internet in a few days anyway; sound schemes will work with every version of Windows from the last 20 years, how do they expect to restrict them to Ultimate users? Even the Dreamscene thing was soon patched to run on any Vista version. What happened to the exclusive digital content and all the other grand things Ultimate users were promised? Oh well, sorry. Here's you some WAV files.
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#3 By
9264 (69.176.21.30)
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4/22/2008 5:12:43 PM
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Vista Ultimate it not about *Extras* only
I didn't say it was, nice strawman though. Ultimate Extras was an extremely hyped reason to buy Ultimate though, yet after release they failed to deliver anywhere near what was promised. SP1 even alters the Ultimate Extras screen to severely downplay them. Sorry but the whole thing has been a joke.
This post was edited by Skyfrog on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 17:16.
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#4 By
82766 (202.154.80.82)
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4/22/2008 5:31:55 PM
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@2 - one thing I've never understood with Ultimate... why are language packs considered to be "Ultimate" or extra?? I've always felt these should be available for all builds and actually supplied with the OS on the disc.
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#5 By
23275 (68.17.42.120)
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4/22/2008 6:14:02 PM
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@4, perhaps yes, but in places (home and work) where multiple languages are spoken, and regardless of where they appear, language packs are essential and certainly worthy of the Ultimate moniker.
Far too few people in the US appreciate what it takes to develop for multiple languages and most do not appreciate what it is to speak more than one language - much less think among them.
As Goethe said, "to know another language is to have another soul..." he was quite right and localizations being in Vista as they are, are for us, crucial.
As to *extras* there is more to it than that - there are real offers now and significant savings on great products that are most probably of interest to Vista Ultimate users. Similarly, it does appear that *extras* are now being developed according to a more liberal and relaxed schedule outside of the more strict development processes (assumed) to be in place. http://www.ultimatepc.com/#home
For those with TPM, Secure Startup alone is enough of a reason to run Ultimate (Used to be called CornerStone).
I agree, it has been a joke, but the joke is that Ultimate has been cast in the context of extras it doesn't have, rather than for the features it does.
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#6 By
8556 (12.210.39.82)
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4/22/2008 10:41:12 PM
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Lloyd 5: "Ultimate has been cast in the context of extras it doesn't have, rather than for the features it does." This is true for Vista overall. MS's marketing, or lack thereof, of Vista is impossible to comprehend. MS is letting themselves get beat up around the edges in many ways. Pay for some TV ads, MS. Not the junk "Wow" ads, but informative ads that show people accomplishing tasks on Vista that OS X can't touch. Show multiple languages on the same machine being used. How about reminding the folks considering a switch to Apple because they think that their programs may not work on Vista that when they buy the Apple box they won't be able to use any of their old programs on OS X.
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#7 By
23275 (68.186.182.236)
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4/22/2008 11:25:35 PM
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#6, True enough and great examples, too.
I mean... let's speak of Extras... where are the articles about the amazing content being delivered in Media Center... check out the newest version of its Internet TV - even the coming soon trailers are helpful. There are so many examples...
@3, strawman I guess every argument is to be countered with that label - that is so over used. If you had read the article I ref'd you'd have noted that the context I offered at my #2 above wasn't close to the use of a strawman tactic. It was meant to clearly explain exactly what distinguishes Vista Ultimate from other SKU's.
To rant a bit... idiots, and I do mean absolute idiots are suggesting that Windows Vista is not componentized enough... like some new word they have found that they can say in every Windows related article.... they say it casually, like one would around a dinner table... where all nod in agreement to that which they have zero understanding about... It's just daffy.
I fear young people with less experience are picking up on all this rubbish and believing it. It is just nonsense. Candidly, just about any person can make Vista run like a scalded dog - YET... ASSHATS continue to press home the "hardware requirements" bunk like any low cost Core 2 and 2 GB, or even 4 GB of RAM is just wildly expensive... NUTS
They write all this and ignore the fact that very solid machines capable of making any OS fly can be had for so little that as Bill Gates opined, rendered the hardware largely irrelevant. That is most certainly true today - making the "cost" irrelevant.
Next up we all have to pretend that Apple and OS X did not see all that was shared at PDC Nov 2003 and that each and everything that came out in Tiger two years later and treated as "new" was not lifted and then in a half-baked way, bolted to a 30 year old OS... daffy!
It's not the technology that is at all frustrating - it is the garbage that is shared as fact that just stuns me. I'm getting ready to send a laptop to AWIN for review and I cannot wait to see the reaction - a laptop that is as smooth as the finest desktops money can buy and you know what... we really are not at all special... no special this or that.... just common sense... hard work and consistency. That is all any model of success takes. Vista is a lot like that - pretty as it can be... it is consistent in so many important ways and even more candidly, I am very glad that it surprises as infrequently as it does - that means that the ecosystem worked largely and that it continues to work.
Finally, you all looking for the worst in all things... are you at all surprised when you find them? Try the reverse for a couple of weeks - you'll be amazed at how much better all things are.
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#8 By
82766 (202.154.80.82)
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4/23/2008 12:06:17 AM
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Lloyd... I couldn't agree more with you!! and as always your turn of word and phrasing is perfect.
btw... any idea as to when the new AWIN web site is appearing?? :-)
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#9 By
113952 (24.158.234.171)
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4/23/2008 12:17:57 AM
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Skyfrog
Why would any one complain about the extras that they feel they have not recieved. Ultimate is like $50 more than Home Premium. For those of us with a real job that have data we need to protect bitlocker is worth that.
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#10 By
23275 (68.186.182.236)
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4/23/2008 12:37:48 AM
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#8, Thanks for the kinds words... most sincerely, I want people, especially young people newer to technologies to embrace the fundamentals and the science and then based upon the understanding that they develop, select and use the technologies they like and that fit for them. I submit that Vista, and most especially the Ultimate SKU is an option worthy of consideration.
My posts here tonight are part of our tests - dual posting to old and new - to bridge the BETA we have planned. If you saw the requirements list the AWIN team presented, you'd regard our development as "rushed" - it is that comprehensive. Seems some moderators wanted to be able to surf a link, hit a big fat easy button and have it post - picking up all their profile bits along the way - and from PC's, hand helds and their kitchen appliances. (and this one was easy...)
We're about done, but the UX over the admin back end needs a lot of work to dress it up - characteristically, we make the parts people never see look and feel as good as any front end - after all, people have to use them a great deal and we want them to enjoy it.
We completed our own ERP/MRP/BOM/PM/CRM/FA/HR suite this year it does all this in real time and visually. Nearly ten years in the making and its move into the market (white label) behind some of the biggest names in our industry, has taken us off AWIN a lot. Still the guys work on AWIN a great deal - to share with all how it was done and perhaps most importantly, why. We hope you like it. There are some surprises that we expect will astound some, and maybe delight all. We'll see. Thanks for asking and for your continued interest.
Oh, we're all jazzed up over OXML and how we were able to bake document management into our ERP suite - writing to WSS/SPS libs, but embedding in the ERP. OXML is about so much more than a great ISO.... sorry to side-track, but that one was just too cool to not share.
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#11 By
45754 (164.140.159.143)
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4/23/2008 12:49:41 AM
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#10 Can't wait :) Thanks Lloyd !
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