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Hackers will feed on Vista in 2008, says McAfee | |
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| Time: 01:34 EST/06:34 GMT | News Source: InfoWorld | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Microsoft will face more than 40 vulnerabilities in Windows Vista next year as the operating system climbs past the 10 percent market-share milestone and malware authors really start to find flaws, a McAfee analyst said today. "Most of the current malware has ignored Vista," said Craig Schmugar, a threat researcher at McAfee's Avert Lab -- but that's not because the operating system has been frustratingly secure. In fact, Schmugar argued, Vista has been a worthwhile target in the first year of its release. "These people make their living writing malware or attacking users," he said. "They're driven by financial motivation, and only when market share has an impact will they really work on Vista." | ||
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| #1 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/27/2007 9:50:33 AM |
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A McAfee analyst suggests that we will require Virus protection in years to come - Wow what a surprise coming from a representative of an anti-virus company! I guess this guy just earned his pay for the week.
So because XP's vulnerabilities doubled in its second year, the same will happen to Vista? I have no doubt that Vista will face malicious challenges in the years to come but I would think most would come from third party apps that don’t implement Vista’s security features properly. |
| #2 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/27/2007 10:52:28 AM |
| #1: Playing that ActiveWin favourite, "Shoot the Messenger", are we? I could easily argue that someone in the antivirus industry is the perfect source for information on future virus trends. What he's saying is blatantly obvious, so I'm not sure why you're getting all huffy other than the usual AW knee-jerk defense of MS. Vista will be more heavily targeted as its market share increases. How successful those attacks will be depends on the security mechanisms within Vista. No matter how heavily it's targeted, if there are few holes then few holes will be exploited. Also, he is talking about future trends, not the here & now, and he's not advocating a McAfee solution to an immediate problem. Last time I checked, there was thriving competition in the AV industry. |
| #3 By 8556 (12.208.163.138) at 11/27/2007 11:37:21 AM |
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To get a boost of anti-malware for free, and that actually works, try the free Threatfire program at http://www.threatfire.com/download/
The only issue I had with Threatfire recently was that it blocked the installation of XP SP3 RC1. In Vista, where I installed it after loading SP1 RC, it has minimal effect on performace. |
| #4 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/27/2007 11:46:41 AM |
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Amazing... This post was edited by rxcall on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 11:48. |
| #5 By 52115 (66.181.69.250) at 11/27/2007 12:18:50 PM |
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It does make you wonder why the government and other big corporations haven't adopted Vista yet. Yeah, there's a new learning curve trying to learn where the new features and finding the trusty old features, but if it's more secure and better, then why aren't more jumping on the band-wagon. Do they know something the normal end-user doesn't or do they trust the more tried and true matured XP?
Personally, the verdict is still out on Vista for me. Seems like it causes a lot of overhead and constant hdd thrashing when doing nothing at all (at least 20 minutes upon start up). openSuse 10.3 for me, seems to run a lot smoother, faster and is a very nice distro (plus beagle runs at the first time you login for indexing, so you get the hdd thrashing, but that's it). One thing that I've noticed having experienced both Linux (KDE) and Vista, there are things which are "new" in Vista that KDE has had for quite sometime. Looks like MS borrowed some ideas from the Linux world. One thing which hasn't been transferred over yet, split windows within a single explorer window. Split the right pane to show two different locations (local, network, etc) and you can very easily copy/move files between the two locations within the same window. NICE! |
| #6 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/27/2007 12:21:30 PM |
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#3: At what point do you actually feel safe based on the various anti-this & that measures you've implemented, and what are the trade-offs? After loading up Windows Defender, Ad-Aware, Spybot, Norton AntiBot, ThreatFire etc, there are so many filter layers that a file copy degrades to Vista-like performance levels.
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| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/27/2007 12:29:04 PM |
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#5: It does make you wonder why the government and other big corporations haven't adopted Vista yet.
Let's see... 1. Minor re-training for staff 2. More in-depth re-training for sysadmins 3. Costs of rolling out new platform 4. Costs of upgrading hardware to get similar performance under XP 5. Software incompatibilities that may require critical custom apps to be modified 6. Lack of driver support for legacy devices 7. XP SP2 is good enough |
| #8 By 17918 (151.145.238.91) at 11/27/2007 1:33:36 PM |
| Actually, how about many third party enterprise vendors still don't support Vista across the board yet. Juniper, iPass, and Cisco to name a few. |
| #9 By 8556 (12.208.163.138) at 11/27/2007 1:44:48 PM |
| Latch #6: On my Vista notebooks I use Defender along with Avira AntiVir and Threatfire. On my XP machines I use Spysweeper or CounterSpy along with AntiVir and Threatfire. My car has front and side air bags along with seat belts. Protection is good. Even so, I make daily images using True Image. Better safe than sorry. |
| #10 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/27/2007 2:01:15 PM |
| #9: The addition of front & side airbags doesn't decrease your horsepower or slow your power steering. True Image is pretty sweet, though, and a fair price for home users. |
| #11 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/27/2007 2:20:46 PM |
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#12: I predict that any time there is negative focus on MS, you'll throw up the deflector screens and try to divert attention to Apple.
btw where have you been for the past month, copying files over the network with Vista? |
| #12 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/27/2007 2:25:39 PM |
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Seems to me I've heard this before:
Let's see... 1. Minor re-training for staff 2. More in-depth re-training for sysadmins 3. Costs of rolling out new platform 4. Costs of upgrading hardware to get similar performance under Windows 2000 5. Software incompatibilities that may require critical custom apps to be modified 6. Lack of driver support for legacy devices 7. Windows 2000 is good enough It's the same with every new OS. This post was edited by rxcall on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 14:27. |
| #13 By 2231 (72.5.151.4) at 11/27/2007 3:23:10 PM |
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#14, 'Windows 2000 is good enough' if you were running Windows 2000. The Windows XP upgraders were predominantly coming from Windows 95/98/ME, which had clearly hit the wall.
XP with SP2/3 is still in its prime, so Vista has a much higher hurdle to overcome. |
| #14 By 2201 (82.20.33.177) at 11/27/2007 3:46:51 PM |
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#15 except we're talking in the context of business adopting new versions of Windows. They wouldn't be running Windows 95/98/Me, but NT and 2000. Therefore rxcall's comment is very valid.
Businesses don't jump onto the next version of Windows as soon as it's out, they never have. There are significant amount of businesses who are still on Windows 2000! Therefore there's no conspiracy against Vista at all, just the most obvious common sense. |
| #15 By 23275 (71.12.191.230) at 11/27/2007 4:00:24 PM |
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BOVINE SCATOLOGY
Vista, out of the box, requires very little. A decent AV solution. ESET's NOD32 and Haute Secure for IE 7 - that's it. Do yourself a favor - skip all the crap and BS email solutions and use a hosted Exchange 2007 provider that uses Postini and additional layers of anti-spam and network and host AV for email - you'll see zero, or very dang little SPAM, ever. Run Outlook 2007 as an MS MAPI Client [RPC Over HTTPS "Outlook Anywhere"]. Zero risk of mal-ware if done well. Windows Vista's native firewall and native defender are perfect - the firewall in Vista is bad to the bone and uses ISA Sever's code. As you know, in Vista - even admin level users, are restrcited users - the only difference is that admin level users do not have to respond to UAC escalations with a password - they can click ok, etc... The root level admin account is disabled by default. Let Vista settle in on your system. Use the customer experience program and do what it says -it will find and apply solutions for you. It is simple, fast and it works. If you have XP clients in your home/SOHO network, apply the XP SP2 LLTD Patch - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4F01A31D-EE46-481E-BA11-37F485FA34EA&displaylang=en Whatever you do, don't buy the BS held out by our press or foil hat wearing trolls that spout off here, or at any other venue. Find and work with a good MS Partner that builds their own rigs and loves PC's. Emphasis on that last part - find some guy, or gal that loves what PC's can do for people. They'll use great parts and put some love into their work. If you're in an enterprise... well... you already know this stuff and the drill... there isn't much you can do that is inventive, or much fun - so trunk-slam, hang a shingle and give running your own enterprise a shot. It's worth it and everyday is fun and filled with "solutions" not BS. |
| #16 By 29967 (72.221.79.220) at 11/28/2007 12:54:20 PM |
| I find it HILARIOUS that a shitty AV company who survives solely on name recognition and produces insecure software themselves is spouting crap about Vista being insecure. What a steaming pile of horse shit. |
| #17 By 15406 (99.224.112.94) at 11/28/2007 9:54:56 PM |
| #18: I find it hilarious that you're making this spurious connection between two totally unrelated things. Do you have to be an award-winning director or writer to know that a movie is crap? Do you have to be a world-class athlete to know that Shaq is a poor free-throw shooter? It's irrelevant how good or secure McAfee's software is when they're making a prediction of MS OS security based on historical data. However, if you do have some facts to match your in-depth analysis, I'd be happy to listen. |
| #18 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 11/29/2007 3:02:27 PM |
| #19: But their motivation for making the comment is not irrelevant! |
| #19 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 11/29/2007 3:52:48 PM |
| #20: I agree with you that their motivation is likely self-serving, but that doesn't discount what they're saying. Also, they're not saying "There is a problem now and we have the solution." They're saying that, next year, attacks will likely increase due to increased market penetration and a prediction as to how successful the attacks will be. |
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