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  When will IBM buy Sun?
Time: 12:23 EST/17:23 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Robert Stein

When I interviewed IBM's software chief Steve Mills in February, he said something that has stuck in my head, and I couldn't figure out why. Now I understand: Mills was throwing down a gauntlet that could ultimately wrest control of Java from Sun. In response to a question about Microsoft's monopoly, Mills defined the "Windows franchise" as consisting of Windows and Microsoft Office. This franchise, he said, wasn't going to repeat itself. The tone in his voice when he said that was not just one of pragmatism. I had the distinct feeling that it was of also one of commitment and personal conviction.

Besides the Windows franchise, there are a lot of things that IBM would rather not have repeat themselves. Not buying MS-DOS when it had the chance. Allowing the cloning of PCs. The 32-bit OS debacle (when then-OS/2 partner Bill Gates basically gave IBM its walking papers). Once Microsoft's NT dispatched OS/2 as a viable option, IBM was cast adrift in the fast-growing software segment of Intel-based operating systems. Adding insult to injury, the "Wintel" platform became so heavily commoditized that it was now too easy for enterprise hardware competitors like Dell and the now possibly merging Hewlett-Packard and Compaq to carve out their own slices.

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#1 By 20 (216.202.199.51) at 4/8/2002 2:46:43 PM
IBM has made a huge investment and is probably the single largest contributor to the Java community. Yes, even larger than Sun! IBM has a huge Java site in which they have many free (some even open source) Java libraries for download.

IBM has been working hand in hand with the Apache Jakarta group to help develop many of its projects.

IBM's buyout of Sun would be a Good Thing in general, I believe. IBM has a much clearer strategy and has demonstrated its ability to innovate and provide real services for its customers.

Sun, OTOH, seems content attacking Microsoft and ignoring its customers. I hope IBM
will take over Java because Java will come along much more quickly then when Sun had
it and was sitting on it watching it flounder.

In the end, this is good for everyone because they will be able to choose from two
really good platforms: IBM's Java Enterprise Framework and Microsoft's .NET Framework.

#2 By 135 (209.46.107.141) at 4/8/2002 3:25:07 PM
IBM can't buy Sun as it would be immediately countered by antitrust questions.

#3 By 531 (66.188.86.105) at 4/8/2002 5:32:35 PM
>Wouldnt buying Sun kind of be like buying the Titanic? (prior to its launch) ;-)
... or after.

#4 By 135 (209.46.107.141) at 4/8/2002 5:50:59 PM
#10 - No, it's a completely seperate issue from the Microsoft trial.

What is Sun's major product? Unix servers.
Who is Sun's major competitor? IBM

What other players are there in the market? HP, Compaq, a few others... but they all have tiny marketshare compared to Sun and IBM.

If IBM were to purchase Sun, they would suddenly have an 80-90% marketshare for Unix servers through an acquisition. That creates a monopoly through acquisition, which is considerably different than how Microsoft created their monopoly through consumer purchase decisions.

#5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 4/8/2002 8:16:41 PM
This would be like the United Airlines, US Air merger. Two major players coming together would overbalance the rest of the industry.



#6 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 4/8/2002 11:39:41 PM
Agreed sodablue... it would never happen due to antitrust reasons. The EU wouldn't let it happen, even if America did.

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