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Microsoft Patents Uncrackable DRM | |
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| Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: InformationWeek | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Microsoft may have just succeeded in giving the lie to claims by anti-DRM advocates that tech and record companies should forget about digital-rights management because they can never come up with something that's totally immune to cracking. That's because two inventors working in Redmond, Darko Kirovski and Henrique Malvar, have taken concepts from spread-spectrum technology--used by the military for secure radio communications--and adapted them to the task of permanently inserting the owner's (aka content producer's) name within MP3 and .WAV files. Microsoft was awarded U.S. Patent 7,266,697, entitled "Stealthy audio watermarking," on Sept. 4, for the duo's work. | ||
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| #1 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 9/11/2007 7:28:31 AM |
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First off, they will never learn will they? Just the use of the word "Uncrackable" will have every rocket-science teenager on the planet hot on this one. It WILL be broken.
Secondly, anything this strong, particularly strong enough to survive A/D conversion, simply must alter the sound in some way, shape or form. I just don't see how it couldn't. TL |
| #2 By 54556 (68.35.10.96) at 9/11/2007 7:32:33 AM |
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I don't see where MS said the work uncrackable. This post was edited by notketchum on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 07:32. |
| #3 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 9/11/2007 9:18:15 AM |
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didn't say they did. But read the story headline.
TL |
| #4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 9/11/2007 9:34:56 AM |
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#1: No, there will always be an attempt to exercise control by any means they can dream up. Good thing for us that these schemes are, by & large, totally useless. I don't know what their angle is here. If they came out with a media player that only played their watermarked files, the device would die a quick death in the market. MS seems determined to ingratiate themselves to big media, and to that end they will screw consumers by leapfrogging from one failed DRM scheme to another. How old is PlaysForSh!t again?
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| #5 By 7754 (206.169.247.2) at 9/11/2007 10:22:37 AM |
| #4: perhaps the pessimistic view is right... but on the other hand, Microsoft wants to compete in this market, and this may be a way to do it--with a less restrictive form of DRM. I think the legitimate arguments (those from sensible people, i.e., not thinly-veiled excuses to protect their ability to steal) against DRM boil down to restrictions that compromise Fair Use. Instead of the current DRM implementations--which rely on specific hardware/software combos and thus are criticized as they are prone to infringe upon Fair Use--this would be a device/software-agnostic approach. Yeah, it could be used poorly, but it could also solve a real, legitimate problem in a way that would be fair to both content producers and consumers. |
| #6 By 48398 (70.102.157.10) at 9/11/2007 11:56:46 AM |
| DRM will only prevent lossless duplication with purchased songs. I can still rip a CD and there isn't now nor will there ever be a way to prevent analog copies. You may lose some material in the D/A conversion but if all purchased music is 128k mp3, you aren't losing much. Makes me wonder why they even try. iTunes, BioShock, Alcohol 120% and others prove it's FAR easier to obtain media through illegal means than it is to be a legitimate customer. |
| #7 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 9/11/2007 12:04:16 PM |
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Yeah, that whole BioShock thing is a real bitch.
Glad I got the 360 version... TL |
| #8 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 9/11/2007 12:05:51 PM |
| How about we spend som time teaching people not to steal? Teaching for example, how it hurts them, too? How about the positive side - like what it is to KNOW that one is honorable and what that feels like? |
| #9 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at 9/11/2007 1:15:50 PM |
| #8, Beyond your own children, it's probably a lost cause. |
| #10 By 48398 (70.102.157.10) at 9/11/2007 1:28:06 PM |
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Speaking of stealing, I should mention that I own a license for Alcohol 120% but I run the cracked version since it doesn't deactivate when I update my video driver or plug in a flash drive. I own tons of programs that do what I want them to do and don't consider me a potential thief. This post was edited by Crand2 on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 13:30. |
| #11 By 11888 (64.231.3.163) at 9/11/2007 3:16:11 PM |
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It's not just kids. I know many adults who are more than willing to steal all their music. We do live in a time where renting music is an option. It's like saying, "listen, we know this stuff is crap and not worth paying for so instead rent it from us and we'll let you exchange it later." But even that hasn't caught on.
Personally, I'm back to buying CDs after using eMusic. I still get a track or two from iTunes. Even in Canada where our copyright laws are much more relaxed. |
| #12 By 37 (66.191.120.168) at 9/11/2007 3:23:56 PM |
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I continue to buy CD's all the time. I can rip, and play where ever and whenever. I use iTunes for the occasional single tune that I need. An example would be my recent purchase, "Best Friends" by the Turtles. In NO WAY would I ever want the Turtles music (can't stand them), but I needed that song (her request) for my sister's wedding DVD that I was making. 99 cents, BAM, done deal.
It's for those particular occasions (and a random single I MAY need for personal listening pleasure) when I go for the DRM raped tracks. |
| #13 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 9/11/2007 4:56:39 PM |
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Can the richest, or second richest, men in the World be wrong? No, he does not!
Ergo I follow BG advice and I keep buying CDs. Do I buy not as as many CDS as 25 years ago? Yes I do and I do it because we are submerged by music "created" by big corporations in a studio and "attached" to a nice butt because "they" believe this is enough to generate sales. Or maybe I buy fewer CDS because I am getting older and I do not understand the latest trends. Anyway why should I deal with DRM of any kind when I can avoid it? |
| #14 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at 9/12/2007 1:18:26 AM |
| OiNK OiNK |
| #15 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 9/12/2007 9:21:35 AM |
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#8,
I don't steal movies, music or software, yet I am constantly harrassed by WGA and other Microsoft 'technologies' that are supposed to only affect the guilty. THAT IS THE DAMNED PROBLEM TL |
| #16 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at 9/12/2007 11:31:31 PM |
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TL - "harrassed"
are you an actor, or only an amateur dramatist |
| #17 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at 9/13/2007 7:45:20 AM |
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I guess yhou don't get all the constant WGA verifications every time you try to get something from Microsoft. Lucky you...
TL |
| #18 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 9/13/2007 8:02:21 AM |
| I guess being a Microsoft shill has its advantages. |
| #19 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at 9/13/2007 6:06:01 PM |
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"I guess yhou don't get all the constant WGA verifications"
if you're talking PROFESSIONALLY, then NO. We choose which patches make their way to our end users. They don't see WGA. if you mean PERSONALLY, I don't either. Only when i care to check logs do I notice a new patch was installed sometime in the past. and if you're talking the odd-ball patch, that isn't PUSHED out... then yes. But my oh my, is it SO BAD to have to click ONE extra button to get the patch. Seriously? Do you also complain that your car radio requires an extra button push BEYOND you turning your car key? |
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