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ActiveWin.com: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Processor - Review | |
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| Time: 09:34 EST/14:34 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
Byron has just posted his review of AMD's Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Processor. Here is an excerpt: AMD has been the king of 64-bit computing for some time now and no matter what Intel has attempted to throw in front of them, AMD have hurdled over it. With the release of the new AMD AM2 Motherboards and processors AMD are now not only pushing the envelope on the 64-bit and Dual Core front, they are reducing the amount of energy and power that the processors take up, thus producing quieter and cooler PC's. The big question is, has the wait for the new AM2 processors and motherboards been worth it? Do we see any benefit from using DDR2 memory compared to the old DDR2 on the previous Socket 939 processors, read on and we'll find out. This review will also concentrate on the future impact the processor will have when used with Windows Vista, we'll be putting it through its paces on both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the new operating system to see what bearing they have on this chip. | ||
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| #1 By 2960 (24.254.95.224) at 8/1/2007 9:38:46 AM |
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Would have been an interesting, inexpensive upgrade to my 4800x2 machine IF AMD had not done the useless change from socket 939 to AM2.
They screwed a lot of enthusiests with that one. We do what we do so we can upgrade when we want to, piece by piece. TL |
| #2 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 8/1/2007 10:22:36 AM |
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Anyone ever see a pic of an AMD proc and an Intel proc under and electron microscope?
I did a few years ago, and what I saw really woke me up. The Intel proc was nearly picture perfect - everything was straight as an arrow and contact points were uniform and very consistent. The AMD proc looked like a plate of linguini - contacts were all over the place - some seeming to hang on for dear life to the most tenuous of connections. Knowing that these things move, vibrate and wiggle about constantly, suggested to me that the precariously attached connections I saw in the AMD proc would fail sooner than the Intel proc. Of course it may not matter a whit, but I thought of climbing and many other activities where connections matter and I reasoned that what I preferred was as solid and consistent a connection as possible. I never built a single computer with an AMD processor and based upon what I saw. Now, all that could have changed and I could be dead wrong about its import, but I did base very long term decisions upon what I saw with my own eyes and it required no discussion whatever. |
| #3 By 3 (86.1.34.106) at 8/1/2007 10:59:51 AM |
| Have to say I've used AMD processors for years and not had one fail at all, I have however had one intel failure some time ago. Still if Intel would ever let us keep any processors we could finally do full comparison reviews! |
| #4 By 25030 (12.159.165.115) at 8/1/2007 11:09:29 AM |
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I love me my AMD ;)
Personally, I've never had either an Intel or an AMD fail on me, though I have to admit I build mostly with AMD CPU's. Ever since the first A64 rolled off the shelf, I've been using roughly 90% AMD chips (both single and dual core) in my builds, both for myself and for others. |
| #5 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 8/1/2007 11:33:44 AM |
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What main boards do you all use?
Curious... I wonder what percentage of guys that have had less than a good experience with Windows Vista are using AMD procs and compat MB's? I may give one a try and see how I like it. Thanks. |
| #6 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 8/1/2007 11:45:32 AM |
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I'm using a Dell E521 with an AMD X2-5000+. ATI X1300 Pro. Great experience.
I just installed Longhorn Beta 3 at work on an ASUS A8N SLI-Deluxe , S939 X2 4800+ with a 6600GT and I must say it runs better than Windows 2003 R2. Feels snappier. |
| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 8/1/2007 11:55:47 AM |
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AMD hasn't had nearly the amount of problems Intel has had. My latest system is running an AMD64 X2-5000 and it runs as well as any other PC I've had. Like they say, "Some of the world's best food is served from the dirtiest kitchens."
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| #8 By 3 (86.1.34.106) at 8/1/2007 12:17:56 PM |
| I've used multiple AMD processors on Windows Vista and they have all run great - Our new review machine uses the M2V board by asus and that runs it great as well. |
| #9 By 25030 (12.159.165.115) at 8/1/2007 12:29:49 PM |
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#5,
My last few were Abit KN9 and KN9-Ultra nForce 4 boards. Good luck too with the ECS nForce4M board. I also have a couple of old Chaintech VNF-250 nForce 3 boards that are running older Socket 754 chips, and still running Vista without a hitch. None of these are high end boards by any stretch, just good, solid, stable, overclockable boards with a nice feature set. |
| #10 By 2 (136.142.154.71) at 8/1/2007 3:32:14 PM |
| Byron has a big intel review coming up. should be interesting to see differences. |
| #11 By 3 (86.1.34.106) at 8/1/2007 4:03:30 PM |
| Three of them if bobs posts are anything to go by |
| #12 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 8/1/2007 6:53:37 PM |
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#5: I use, among others, a Dell XPS 700, Intel Core 2 6700, 2GB of DDRAM and since the beginning I have had a mixed feeling about Vista: it is indeed a nice, evolutionary step over XP; it has nothing to do with what LH was supposed to be and it was rushed out because MS had deadlines to fullfill. Finally but this apply just to the Ultimate Edition: the mess MS did with it will hunt them for years.
Said that I would not revert to XP...yet #7: "Some of the world's best food is served from the dirtiest kitchens." Good luck for your liver. :-) |
| #13 By 48398 (130.13.158.96) at 8/1/2007 8:42:02 PM |
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#2, newer processors are using a BGA right on the bottom of the die so there aren't any of those tiny wires around the edge anymore. You'd have to hit it with a hammer a few times to break that.
I have used both AMD and Intel and I currently use all Intel products. The day AMD starts making their own motherboards is the day I build another AMD system. I like performance and reliability, not overclocking and fancy heatpipes. And sure as hell not Asus, which replaced my motherboard 5 times before they stopped returning my calls. Did you know Asus has a specific person there responsible for handling 3rd time RMA customers? I think that says a lot for the quality of your product when you have so many 3rd tries, a person has to be in that post. |
| #14 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 8/2/2007 1:59:11 PM |
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I'm a fan of things working smoothly, which has always been why I won't buy AMD. I almost did a year ago think about replacing an old 2.4 Ghz P4 system with an AMD proc, solely because I could use the same memory. Found a 3.4 Ghz P4 processor to upgrade with instead.
As far as Vista... I like the concept, but it's still buggy as all hell. I reverted my machine to XP for now, and will reinstall Vista when SP1 comes out. As far as long term consequences though... XP was buggy as all hell too when it first came out. It also had weird slowness issues, etc. It didn't become decent and reliable until after SP2. So give Vista a year or two. |
| #15 By 39852 (70.48.221.140) at 8/7/2007 1:57:37 PM |
| Oh noes! I've been using a processor made of linguini that isn't good for teh climbing! I can't see inside my NIC's chipset either, it might be made of spaghetti! I'll just throw some spinach on my computer, since that's some healthy food and it's the same color as my motherboard! Thanks to Ketchup Science I know what to do, now my PC is certified for critical life-support! |
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