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  Microsoft Cooks Joost Killer – LiveStation
Time: 00:02 EST/05:02 GMT | News Source: Softpedia | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum

LiveStation is a project currently under development, and a joint effort from Skinker and Microsoft. LiveStation is currently in beta stage, but essentially the project is designed to enable users to watch live television on their machines. "Interactive live TV on the PC that works" is in fact the slogan under which the LiveStation beta project went live. "LiveStation is a software solution, co-developed with Microsoft Research, designed to allow people to watch live TV on their desktop in a highly scalable way and without requiring broadcasters to invest a large amount of money in hardware and infrastructure," reveals a message posted on the LiveStation website.

Steve Clayton, the CTO of the UK Partner Group is the author of the two Soapbox videos embedded at the bottom. Watch them in order to get an accurate idea of what LiveStation is all about and how it relates to Joost. "Matteo showed me one of their latest projects called LiveStation - a highly efficient video streaming service using Silverlight to deliver realtime video to your desktop. The UI was lovely and we talked about the potential to do it on a mobile too - not far off," Clayton revealed.

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#1 By 8556 (12.207.97.148) at 7/5/2007 2:12:33 PM
This compulsion of Microsoft, if not to do all things, to certainly do as many as possible, is a root cause for so little being optimized when released, or in the case of Vista Ultimate's add-ons, fully completed. Stop it! Focus on your core software, Windows and Office, please MS.

#2 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 7/6/2007 1:43:45 PM
#1, Ya know... I'm with you on this one. There is a lot of product out there that needs some work - some much more than others. E2K7 for starters - I mean, yeah, easy enough for us, but dad gum, we really know Exchange well.... I can't imagine what people with less experience are going through in their efforts to set it up - much less alongside other/earlier versions of the server. *Well... I guess I can... the forums for the product are bloody and filled with a lot of pain - I mean real, like we've been in configuration hell for weeks, kind of pain.

We've posted guidance on a lot of fixes to offer help, which seems to have worked, but poor fellows are tripping trying to get all the web services set up where they don't have a UCC [wild card] cert up - and the associated costs with UCC certs is huge compared to what people are used to paying... I didn't mean to move down any one path too far, but dad gum, some of these products need a lot of love and a service pack or two if newer admins are to have a prayer of a chance integrating them.

May be it is just our perceptions and MS does have enough people and they are all working such issues with more than enough resources... hard to say... what is easier to tag is that out here... in the dirt, it does feel like they have plenty of resources, but perhaps there isn't enough sustained emphasis in any one area to get things evolved - kind of like how some stews can taste better after they have simmered for a few days. I'm not naive - knowing how complex software has become and how long apps really do take to produce, but dang, it's beating the crap out of partners and badly.

#3 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 7/6/2007 6:33:45 PM
#1 Very true indeed; it seems that people at MS are dominated by a great degree of uncertainty about what the future will be and try to cover as many bases as possible and this create the problems they are experiencing.

#2 I could not agree more. One of the key of MS success was the smooth way different programs produced by the company interacted together. Now I see a very messy situation. Just few examples:
Vista was released to Volume license customers at the end of November but the patches that allowed an easier way to connect a Vista machine to a SBS Domain was released at the end of January, beginning of February.
The patches to allow Office 2007 and Vista computers to interact with CRM 3.0 are still being released nowadays.
And speaking of Office 2007, IMO a giant step forward from previous releases, how come that Outlook, probably one of the most used apps of the suite does not have the "Ribbon"? Because they did not have time to add it before the deadline. And why is Office 2007 so slow? Maybe because they did not have time to complete the optimization process?

Bottom line am afraid that MS is becoming the IBM of the 21st Century: a very conservative company, run by bean counters, afraid of everything that could trouble the "establishement".
The problem is that nowadays there is at least one computer in a large number of households and children begin to use them in early age; in order to build loyalty to your company you have to attract, excite them now because a kid that is ten years old today will be the one responsible to decide what to buy in his/her company twenty years from now!
MS needs to come out with an OS that breaks the bridge with the past, not an evolutionary OS but a revolutionary one. In parallel keep release V2 and V3 of XP or Vista and let big corporations run it.
Just my humble opinion of course.

#4 By 32132 (66.183.203.110) at 7/6/2007 6:59:34 PM
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070707/livestation-branding/

"When the blogs catch fire, there’s really no stopping, even when it’s burning the wrong house. I’ve made several mistakes in the past so this is not a cheap shot at other bloggers, but something like this clearly demonstrates how susceptible blogs can become to misinformation spreading like wild fire and how that problem can be compounded by the Chinese-whispers effect.

In this case, a video-on-demand software made by British developer, Skinkers, can be mislabeled as “Microsoft’s Joost-killer” when it’s not made by Microsoft at all. To be honest I was about to make the same mistake when Josh Phillips first introduced me to LiveStation, but it really doesn’t take much to investigate and find out in fact it’s made by the “Skinkers” company."

#5 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at 7/7/2007 12:17:09 AM
#3, Man, I hope Microsoft reads that post of yours - that is exactly what is needed - when my kids were little [ a billion years ago ] we used to play a game... I'd tell em, "lose your mind" and shake my head about and they'd do the same - making ourselves dizzy. The hole point was about having some fun and simply letting lose with some energy - kind of a stationary game if Dizzy-Izzy-Bat. Deal is, MS needs to blow the doors off of an OS for young people and enthusiasts and just go nuts with it - something so radical that its stuns people - and release it exactly as you say, for those other than their enterprise customers.

Similarly, MS has a really tough problem and a bad habit - they use their own stuff. Okay, well and good, but that is the problem - "they use their own stuff [only]" and not the wild mix of third party apps that we all do out here - so their perspectives are just off and I suspect by a wide margin. I mean, how many people as a percentage at MS run vertical practice management software, or milling software, or control software for a water sprinkler parts distributor - the list is endless, but it's "our" list - the mashup we have to dog-food, if you will.

It's one thing to run MS SW, but quite another to run it out here where third party apps are still classified, "Don't bring to the forward trenches."

#3, Well said, Fritz!

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