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  IBM software to reduce cost of using Linux, Mac systems?
Time: 09:36 EST/14:36 GMT | News Source: News.com | Posted By: Andre Da Costa

IBM said on Sunday that it will offer an open desktop software system for businesses that puts the cost of managing computers running Linux or Apple's Mac OS on a more equal footing with Microsoft's Windows software, improving the economics of Windows alternatives. The product--which the company calls its Open Client Offering--pulls together software IBM has developed in-house and with partners Novell and Red Hat to answer questions over the cost-effectiveness of managing Linux or Apple PCs alongside Windows PCs.

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#1 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/12/2007 9:57:45 AM
So doesn't this prove Microsoft's "Get the Facts" campaign?

#2 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 2/12/2007 11:40:28 AM
#1: No. MS' "Get The FUD" site is a collection of paid-for, rigged studies that say Windows is better than Linux in every measurable way. The article above talks about how IBM is improving Linux server management tools. IBM improving a software tool doesn't mean that MS' bogus studies are valid.

#3 By 32132 (142.32.208.231) at 2/12/2007 11:55:13 AM
"Technology market research firms Gartner and IDC estimate that it costs $4,000 to $6,000 to manage the average desktop PC of any office worker, he noted. "

Which means the cost of the OS + Office is about 10% of the overall cost, which is the point that many of those Windows TCO studies makes (without resorting to the kind of derangement OS fanatics like Latch always spew).

Windows has a cheaper TCO. IBM is trying (unsuccessfully) to rectify that.

#4 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/12/2007 2:02:48 PM
#2 Really?

Seems to me the article is saying exactly that.

BTW Latch, you are soooooooo predictable.

#5 By 28801 (68.81.50.122) at 2/12/2007 6:44:53 PM
IBM Software??? Anyone who has ever used Lotus Notes knows that IBM does not produce software.

#6 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 2/13/2007 7:33:59 AM
#5: IBM can indeed build good software. They have a good Java VM, for example, and the Eclipse platform is also quite good. The Eclipse platform is Open Source, but much of the code is contributed and maintained by IBM employees. So, they can indeed create good software. Just not good productivity apps. Notes does indeed suck, according to just about everyone who has weighed in on it. But their Java development stuff is quite good. I prefer NetBeans to Eclipse, but that doesn't mean that I think Eclipse is bad because of that.

I must say, rxcall, that is a mighty big brush you're using to paint IBM with. Do you use that same brush to write glowing reports about everything MS does?

#7 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/13/2007 12:01:11 PM
Eclipse didn't get good until it became open source.

I use many MS tools and am generally pretty impressed with their power, ease of use, speed of development and interoperability with one another. That said, I think they can do much better in their interoperability with competitor products, price points, and innovation (no I’m not siding with Latch on this, but MS could do much more in this area).

I work in a shop that has many services outsourced to IBM, so I guess I am a little biased with my brush.

#8 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/13/2007 2:30:18 PM
One more thing - having used IBM notebooks for 5 years now, I can honestly say that they suck too. My T60 with a gig of memory can't get out of it's own way. Oh that's right, I'm running Notes on it!

#9 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 2/14/2007 8:06:21 AM
Well, there's your problem! Stop runing Notes!! It was crap when Lotus originally wrote it, and it has never improved.

#10 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 2/14/2007 10:08:00 AM
I must say, however, my previous T43 wasn't bad with 1 gig - just had a small hd.

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