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Symantec Calls Out Microsoft Over Vista Security Center | |
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| Time: 01:05 EST/06:05 GMT | News Source: *Linked Within Post* | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Symantec on Friday accused Microsoft of using monopolistic tactics to keep third-party consumer security software from disabling Windows Vista's built-in security dashboard, but denied that it would soon meet with European Union antitrust regulators, who are looking into complaints that Vista will violate a 2004 ruling. Microsoft said Symantec's charges were bogus. The Cupertino, Calif. security company's beef with Microsoft is over the new operating system's Security Center, a dashboard that Vista presents to indicate whether the firewall is correctly configured, for example, or that the computer's anti-virus signatures are up to date. Microsoft plans to release Vista in November to corporate clients, and push it into general availability in January 2007. | ||
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| #1 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 9/25/2006 1:43:04 AM |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_seeking
take your pick which company this applies to, but I would suggest that its Micrsoft's product and design decisions are their's to make. This post was edited by mooresa56 on Monday, September 25, 2006 at 01:43. |
| #2 By 9549 (12.150.6.130) at 9/25/2006 8:33:14 AM |
| I always thought that MS should be able to have a centralized interface for all other applications to interact with. In this case Security Center should be the central place for the security controls but Symantec and McAfee and the like should be able to configure their app to the Security Center interface to make it simple for the consumer. They should be able to add links and buttons to the Security Center that compliment their products but not be able to circumvent the centralized UI of the Security Center. The same goes for media player. The Windows Media Player should be the default interface and others like Real and Quicktime WinAmp should be able to modify media player to add their unique services and codecs without interfering with the basics. Now if MS is not sharing enough of the info for third parties to make these inroads than that is where the monopolistic problems begin. The problem is that Windows provides the basics for ripping music to sending email. Some people only want the basics and feel they do not need bloated apps to do the same basic functions that they are looking for. and the ones that want advanced editing or features turn to third party apps. What the third parties have do is convince me, Joe consumer, that I want or even need their app when I'm getting the basics for free. The same free types of service that are included in every major OS out there Tiger or Linux. Stop spending your money on lawsuits and spend it on advertisements that make me aware that your product is better than a free app that comes with every major OS on the market. The consumer needs to be educated some don't even know what a Symantec or McAfee are. |
| #3 By 23443 (12.35.96.66) at 9/25/2006 9:18:33 AM |
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#2,
Symantec already interfaces with the Security Center in their products. They want to be able to modify it completely to show their branding etc. No. It's Microsoft's Security Center. This is a very simple case of Symantec not liking the competition from Microsoft re: Windows OneCare Live, Windows Firewall, and Windows Defender. Defender flat out kills the 2006 Symantec products when it comes to stopping spyware. OneCare Live is a great product for the casual web browser who already knows a bit about keeping safe online, and the Windows Firewall is again a great product for the same user. They are memory cheap, and have just the features needed to keep me safe, without being intrusive. I beta-test for Symantec, but I can see that this is all just sour grapes. The other feature they are concerned about is PatchGuard in Vista, that keeps other things from modifying the Kernel. I fail to see how this is a problem, but Symantec feels that it will block them from providing software for Vista. However, they are currently testing all of their current software on Vista. We'll see how it all plays out, but instead of whining, I think Symantec should work on their software and let the consumer decide which is best, instead of a judge or politicians. TowerDave |
| #4 By 7711 (209.204.74.18) at 9/25/2006 10:40:23 AM |
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People whine and moan that Windows is not very secure, so Norton etc make lots of money to fix it. Then when MS makes Windows more secure, Norton etc whine and moan that they've lost their cash cow.
You can't make everybody happy. I'd much rather make the user happy and secure than Norton, etc. |
| #5 By 17996 (131.107.0.102) at 9/26/2006 4:11:53 PM |
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Gotta agree with Microsoft on this one.
"...and the user has the ability to turn off the Security Center entirely." The key point: The user can choose to turn off Windows' Security Center! Thus there is no "restricting" of choice. Symantec wants to turn it off themselves, but they shouldn't be the ones doing it: it should be the users making that choice. Contrast this to IE, which (prior to the XPSP1 Set Program Access & Defaults tool) there was no way for users to turn off IE. |
| #6 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/26/2006 7:15:23 PM |
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#5, Excellent points! Just as OneCare takes over the native firewall and uses the exact same API's as the others are provided, Symantec and all others have that access, too.
Symantec has no basis for crying foul about this whatever. One may now, entirely hide IE from the user. Similarly, one may, at any time, leverage the FREE and highly effective systems builder tools that Micorsoft provides - again, for FREE, to shape the entire build being sent out the door with a PC. One may slip in any default browser, media player or bundled app that they wish. Deal is this... people DO NOT WANT it. They want Microsoft software and they ask for it. They are grown up and if they want to use alternatives, they know where to get them. I am so tired of the press and companies continually complaining about Microsoft. The truth is that one can do anything they wish to do with Microsoft's platform and even when it seems crazy, Microsoft will help them do it! They just do not read, or they are too lazy to do the work. |
| #7 By 3653 (68.52.143.149) at 9/27/2006 1:29:08 AM |
| what do you think symantec's stock will do, once onecare's market share is shown after Chrstmas? |
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