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Opinion: IE7 The Good the Bad and the Buggy | |
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| Time: 08:25 EST/13:25 GMT | News Source: Neowin | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Being the good beta tester that I am I feel it's my duty to report annoyances or bad behavior that occurs in Microsofts new re-rebranded web browser. I have to wonder if they decided to drop the + (which is still present in Release Candidate 1) because of a few little features I feel are still missing from the latest build of IE. | ||
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| #1 By 10022 (69.204.110.203) at 9/8/2006 6:14:46 PM |
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oh how I hate the new dumb UI. Is there any way to turn off the stupid "command bar"
All I want is the menu. I like menus. I hate tool bars. If Microsoft continues down this "childish" UI that they dont forget about the power users. Please wont someone think of the power users! |
| #2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/8/2006 8:28:33 PM |
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#1, We could cry in one another's coffee until dust comes out of our eyes...
I am so with your assessment here... Vista suffers from the same treatment - where some Apple hugging moron thought they knew better than the power users/gamers, engineers and developers that made Microsoft successful. Like a government gone mad... now "they know" what is best for us. The goal is to fix and sustain the user is a perpetual state of childhood - just as the socialist governments backsides they are kissing do to all of us. MS, please, for the love of humanity.... give us back our OS and all that runs on it! |
| #3 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 9/8/2006 8:42:01 PM |
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"Is there any way to turn off the stupid "command bar""
Right click on the toolbar, uncheck "Lock the Toolbars" then either: Drag it off to the right, or customize the command bar and delete all buttons. "Please wont someone think of the power users! " You aren't much of a power user if you couldn't figure out how to get rid of the command bar. |
| #4 By 61 (71.251.77.56) at 9/8/2006 10:05:45 PM |
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You can also turn menus on.
I for one prefer the new IE UI as it is a much cleaner interface. |
| #5 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/9/2006 2:20:36 AM |
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#3, NotP, he wants it gone entirely and no one can do that - at best, one can make minor and largely meaningless changes.
Why for example, can't we drag home and refresh back to where they belong? I think this is what #1, and many others are saying. |
| #6 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 9/9/2006 2:47:55 AM |
| #5, I'm not taking sides on this one, but I honestly want to know, how often do people use either their Home button or the Refresh button? I occasionally refresh a page, but I always use F5. And I never use the home button, I use F6 + google.com or msn.com or fark.com. Much quicker than pointing around with a mouse, I think. I'm not saying users shouldn't have the option to change their positions, I just sincerely want to know how many people actually use the home and refresh buttons. |
| #7 By 37 (68.190.114.234) at 9/9/2006 10:04:48 AM |
| I never use home/refresh buttons. |
| #8 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 9/9/2006 10:38:14 AM |
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#5 "he wants it gone entirely and no one can do that "
Well, the band the command bar is on has to stay because thats the band where the tabs live. Getting rid of the command bar buttons eliminates all trace of the command bar except for the drag bar which is a few pixels wide. "at best, one can make minor and largely meaningless changes" I disagree. For all intents and purposes, the command bar is gone when you eliminate the buttons. |
| #9 By 10022 (69.204.110.203) at 9/9/2006 4:00:39 PM |
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I have managed to make IE 7 mcuh less annoying now that I have actually tried.
I had initially turned off Tabbed browsing because I didnt want it, which of course leaves you with a waste of space (half inch horizontal) called the Command Bar. After playing with some settings, it got it to work like IE 6 with the excpetion of now having the Open in New Tab. As long as I can control where pages open, I will stay with tabbed browsing. Why is it that when you Maximize a window in IE 7 the address bar text is selected - it doesnt do this if the window isnt maximum size - that seems like a bug to me But WHY are the Refresh and Stop buttons not next to the Back/Forward buttons, why cant the Commabd bar be a few pixels shorter? Why doesnt the navigation pane color match your color scheme- what if you wanted red windows (I dont but personnaly)- you get Read windows and a blue gren navigation pane- thats stupid What I hate in Vista is simple the waste of space that is needed to have both the cool suff because all the dumb stuff is tied to closely. Although in general RC1 is the first time I actually started feeling good about the UI - other thant he fact that the context menues are HUGE! I like a simple, clean interface- it seems better in RC1. But there is still so muh inconsistancy in the UI - especially the Control Panels. Dont even get me stated on the mmc Action Bar (this is an absolute waste of space) What Vista needed to do for Power users is give us the easy access to the stuff we do a million times a day- I love Copy as Path - but why does it need to be hidden? Having Copy File Name would be awesome! Open Command Window Here is nice to have included, but a simple little power user command to say - "show all power user features" would have been really cool. |
| #10 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/9/2006 5:46:07 PM |
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I use "Home" all the time, because I have a custom home page that contains many applications and sites we built - so for me it is the most important button.
don't like the layout and tabbed browsing driving all else is just sick. I don't use tabs and do not like them - anyone could have used any number of add-ins to get tabs in IE6. The layout stinks and I jus don't see any way to defend it. |
| #11 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 9/10/2006 4:49:10 PM |
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If you don't like tabbed browsing, disable it. Tools --> Internet Options --> Tabs -->Settings
Then the Home button goes back to the top left corner underneat the back and forward icons. If you don't like the space the command bar uses, turn off "large icons". And if you are really worried about space, get a 20" or 22" monitor. They are cheap. :) |
| #12 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 9/11/2006 3:44:19 AM |
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#11, Thanks for the tips, but IE 7's being in this form is what really bugs me...
To explain... I've said it here many times... when one is in a race, one should drive his own car. MS has not done that in a while and I think they are better than that. IE 7 RC1 represents many things to me - none of which represent leadership. The company allowed tabbed browsing to shape the entire discussion opposite browsers and they gave ground to browsers that did not deserve so much as a mention in the cards much less a title bout - yet it was allowed. MS's employees, its partners and users deserved better than this. I keep looking back at the last six years - wondering what has been going on - I keep asking, "Is this all there is?" [when I look at IE 7 and Vista RC1]. All these years - all those billions? and this is all there is...? What happened? Where was the leadership? IE 7? Yeah - I am stuck with it. Vista, too - unless I fold my end of it now and walk. I wonder... are guys like Latch right? - do we suddenly agree, but for different reasons, or am I and have I always been such a damn fool - hoping that a company like MS was working for the right reasons - because they gave a flip?? So just maybe NOTHING is any good - no matter how much money one has, or how much heart devs like those behind Fire Fox have? May be IE 7 and Vista is all there is - all man is capable of? I tell you... I'd like to have the chance to tell all of them to take their tabs and ram them with great force, right up their fourth points of contact. We all deserved better than this; more than this and a lot damn sooner than this! |
| #13 By 1845 (71.199.25.65) at 9/11/2006 5:45:28 AM |
| Good grief, enough with the melodrama. You'd think Bill Gates came to your house and murdered your cat or something. |
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