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| Time: 00:55 EST/05:55 GMT | News Source: PC World | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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On June 15, in case you didn't notice, Microsoft announced that Bill Gates will "transition out of a day-to-day role in the company" in 2008, though he'll remain as chairman. Bill, no one can complain about your new focus on philanthropy, but over the next two years, how about showing your customers a little love? | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/27/2006 2:30:08 PM |
| Good article, but where's Parkkker to tell us it's all LIES! LIES! LIES! |
| #2 By 37047 (70.25.214.232) at 7/27/2006 9:26:35 PM |
| I've already circled July 2009 on my calendar, to remind me of his quasi-retirement date. |
| #3 By 37047 (70.25.214.232) at 7/27/2006 9:49:03 PM |
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My favourite part of that was "Oh, and quit bragging about how many testers you have. It's tiresome and irrelevant when most of them appear to be taking a permanent lunch break. Embrace the idea that quality and security have to be built in, not tested in."
I know a lot of software companies who should take that to heart! |
| #4 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 7/27/2006 11:02:30 PM |
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"I know a lot of software companies who should take that to heart! "
Mozilla especially. 2 months in a row with 12 security fixes. 7 of them serious. Shameful. As for the article: "after Netscape came IE" Well, after Netscape stole the Mosaic code from the univeristy, thereby depriving Spyglass from deserved revenue, it is true that IE licensed some of the Mosaic code. And while it took some time (what with Netscape giving away its product for free) , IE 4, 5 and 6 made Netscape look pathetic. "After CP/M came DOS; after Mac came Windows; after Palm came Pocket PC; " Interesting idea. Four companies (including Netscape) that threw away their lead and tens of billions of dollars by being downright stupid. I think Bill Gates was damned innovative. He kept ensuring that his competitors were stupid ... or maybe, just maybe, he was smart. :) |
| #5 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/28/2006 9:05:46 AM |
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#4: Speaking of fixes, we've already got ours. But don't worry. I'm sure MS will get around to fixing this months own-your-box holes any week now.
Let me fix your post for you. What you were trying to say was that MS sits back and watches for others to innovate. They then play me-too and enter the market with substandard offerings. However, their 30+ billion in cash allows them to take massive losses year after year just to stay in that market. Most of their adventures off the Windows desktop have been spectacular flops. I think I read somewhere that the XBos division has lost a billion so far, if I remember right. Nice business. Edit: The first line speaks for itself: "CEO says Microsoft must continue to build out businesses in markets other companies have already created." http://bink.nu/Article7876.bink In other words, MS must continue to follow the innovation of others, and attempt to illegally leverage their monopoly into a dominant position in new markets. MS' status quo. This post was edited by Latch on Friday, July 28, 2006 at 09:21. |
| #6 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 7/28/2006 10:10:07 AM |
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"MS sits back and watches for others to innovate"
Well, coffee girl, a moron might say that if the moron thought CP/M was the first PC OS on the market, or that Mac was the first PC, or Palm was the first handheld device or Netscpae was the first browser. In fact all of those companies are most famous for not being first, but being first to gather enough market share that they should have been unstoppable. Instead, they blew it because Microsoft came out with better and more popular products. Your hatred of Microsft clouds your tiny little mind so much you think the first company that isn't Microsoft in a market should be given the market to keep without any competition. What an idiot you are. |
| #7 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/28/2006 10:36:41 AM |
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#6: LOL. Linus Torvalds is your daddy! Did you ever win that eBay auction for some of Bill G's used toilet paper you were bidding on?
Just remember the quote below the next time MS claims innovation: "CEO says Microsoft must continue to build out businesses in markets other companies have already created." "CEO says Microsoft must continue to build out businesses in markets other companies have already created." "CEO says Microsoft must continue to build out businesses in markets other companies have already created." "CEO says Microsoft must continue to build out businesses in markets other companies have already created." |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/28/2006 10:47:08 AM |
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Well that didn't take long. Here's Uncle Fester opening up his mouth again with predictable hilarity:
'As co-leaders of the business, I could allow Bill to be the full-time champion of innovation. And [now] with me really being the guy who's here every day running the place, I must be the champion of innovation.' Bill Gates & Steve Ballmer: Champions of Innovation. |
| #9 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/28/2006 12:38:56 PM |
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I think coffee girl is dumb enough to think innovate means you have to have invented something from scratch.
"Types of innovation In business and economics, innovation is often divided into four types: Product innovation, which involves the introduction of a new good or service that is substantially improved. This might include improvements in functional characteristics, technical abilities, ease of use, or any other dimension Process innovation involves the implementation of a new or significantly improved production or delivery method. Marketing innovation is the development of new marketing methods with improvement in product design or packaging, product promotion or pricing. Organizational innovation (also referred as social innovation) involves the creation of new organizations, business practices, ways of running organizations or new organizational behavior. " I think Bill and Steve understand what the word innovate means. coffee girl doesn't. |
| #10 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/28/2006 1:16:00 PM |
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#(: Parkkker luvs Tux!
Yes, I'm sure they both know what innovation means, and that's a very nice list you compiled. But what does it have to do with Microsoft? Slapping a new coat of paint on is not innovation. Stealing from others in not innovation. Buying something you couldn't figure out how to steal is not innovation. I know what 'millionaire' means, and yet no matter how many times I could claim to be one, my banker won't believe me. Maybe it's because he doesn't know what 'millionaire' means, I suppose. btw ch is waiting for a response from you in the Like IBM in the 80's thread. |
| #11 By 32132 (142.32.208.232) at 7/28/2006 4:43:47 PM |
| #10 Coffee girl is having reading compreshension problems that seem to be unsolvable. |
| #12 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 7/28/2006 10:33:23 PM |
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Well..golly...
I see the Latch and Parker Show is still running. I admire the passion, though - one does have to give that much. One observation that is of interest to you readers [Latch's and Parker's], is that Parker tends to look at the positive elements in many things he shares his opinion about. Latch most often presents a very negative perspective - regardless of topic - it seems he scours the net looking for that which is bad, wrong, ill, and dark - then he eagerly shares his findings. It's interesting to me, because so many people, companies and "things" are challenged - all are... and I often share with our guys that so long as one seeks that which is good in people and things that they will find it and caution that they are certainly as likely to find the bad if that is what they look for. It's like being in a car on a curve and losing control - if the drive looks at tree and fixes on it, he'll likely hit it... but if he looks for the clear path through the curve, he'll most likely make it through and avoid an accident and perhaps much worse. Say what one might about Parker... at least he looks for what is good, or at least improving and I'd sure rather work around that kind of person than one that is always so down on things. I wish Latch would counter with real and viable alternatives that he loves than carp about all that he hates. Latch, I'd seriously think of heading down to PetSmart on a regular basis and petting a couple of the critters there... you might end up sharing something helpful. |
| #13 By 17996 (66.235.19.95) at 7/29/2006 12:52:15 AM |
| #2 - it's July 2008. |
| #14 By 17996 (66.235.19.95) at 7/29/2006 1:16:01 AM |
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"Security? A continuing bad joke, right down to the Windows Genuine Advantage antipiracy program that Windows Update dubs a "critical security update.""
Well, considering that Windows Update did *not* call it a "critical security update" (it was a "high priority" update--it was never labeled as a security update of any sort), there goes his example. What are other examples that MS security is a bad joke? Let's me give some: - Number of vulnerabilities in IIS 6 has been dramatically less than IIS 5 in the same time frame - Number *and severity* of security updates for XPSP2 is less than XP Gold - No security fixes yet for SQL Server 2005 Even Gartner has praised Microsoft's advances in security: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/41730/41730.html http://blogs.msdn.com/michael_howard/archive/2005/08/02/446729.aspx "Embrace the idea that quality and security have to be built in, not tested in." Has this guy even heard about the Security Development Lifecycle (SDL)? You know, the process that Microsoft has been using for the last several years when developing ANY feature for ANY product? Read about the SDL *and* about its positive effect on product security: http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/sdl.asp Has he heard of Prefast and the other tools that Microsoft uses to find buffer overflows and other errors in its code? Does he know that Microsoft has banned the use of unsafe, overflow-prone functions such as strcpy throughout their codebase and forced the use of safe alternatives instead? "The résumé of new Chief Research and Strategy Officer Craig Mundie includes the disappointing Windows CE operating system ... plus the laughable Trustworthy Computing Initiative" Let's see. The TCI includes security which I already talked about above. Windows CE "disappointing"? Well, CE is what Windows Mobile is built on. And last I knew, even Palm itself was using Windows Mobile for their products. Doesn't sound diappointing to me. (Yes I did cut out a couple things from his Mundie sentence, because I don't know much about WebTV and AutoPC, nor do I know how involved Mundie was on those projects.) "Ray Ozzie is a smart guy and by all accounts a brilliant programmer, but his crowning achievement to date is Lotus Notes, a product whose user interface is despised by the folks I know who have been forced to use it." I'll agree that the Notes UI is horrid. It is simply terrible. But the underlying Notes platform is hugely powerful; Notes is much more than just an email client or Outlook equivalent. Plus Ozzie's Groove software is very well regarded. This post was edited by PatriotB6007 on Saturday, July 29, 2006 at 16:35. |
| #15 By 37047 (216.191.227.68) at 7/31/2006 8:46:56 AM |
| #13: Given how far Microsoft has been with release dates, and sticking to schedules, I thought it might be a safer bet to add a year. :-) |
| #16 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at 7/31/2006 12:37:37 PM |
| #12: You can't extrapolate personalities based on posts in this little microcosm we call ActiveWin. I've used MS for more years than I wish to count. I do not like them as a company. I don't have to go searching far & wide to find stuff to criticize MS for. They do something stupid every single week. While I am critical of MS, sometimes unfairly so, Parkkker is the Pollyanna of MS. In his eyes, they can do no wrong, have never done anything wrong and are wonderful in every way. He ignores MS' past history and acts, and spins everything as best he can. He's either the ultimate fanboy/apologist, or he's on their payroll. I'm just tired of MS' shenanigans in the marketplace and I'll say so at every opportunity. I expect my opinions to be in the minority considering this is a Windows site. |
| #17 By 32132 (64.180.219.241) at 8/1/2006 12:26:05 AM |
| A lot of time little girls like Latch claim to hate someone when in fact they have a big crush on them. |
| #18 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 8/2/2006 1:54:38 AM |
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My point is that MS does get a great deal right - while it continues to try and improve the things it does less well. I do assess that most companies and people do pretty much the same. It's just a lot more refeshing to work with people that look for positive elements in all things.
Whenever I see a post from Latch I know it is going to be negative - a downer. I'd rather hear from him about a method in the *nix that works better. It also seems very naive to expect a large company to NOT compete aggressively in the market it is in, or to NOT develop for emerging and or new markets... Latch seems to want that of Microsoft and he extends that desire to nations, too - to the US, for example. It just makes little sense and it's a downer, too. I would so much rather people "share" what/how they DO STUFF relative to threads run here - one can learn so much from that. Also, there seems to persist an odd tendancy here.... where a post supported by one link or another to largely editorial content, or unverfied Wiki material is held out as and accepted as fact. It's much more interesting when people share what THEY know and experience. In the spirit of that, I'd like to see Microsoft grossly modify how they support partners and have them open partner labs in most markets - especially in mid-market cities - I think that would really help them move software and energize their base. This is one way MS could be improved upon. The labs would be hands-on offices open to partners where product support could be had - on the other side of that coin, they could hold seminars for local business people and feature partners and their software and how great solutions may be shown and what they mean to all parties. |
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