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  Microsoft, Apple alliance at key juncture
Time: 09:03 EST/14:03 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

Five years ago, Apple Computer announced an almost unthinkable pact with Microsoft: The software giant would continue to develop Office software for the Mac, and Apple would bundle Internet Explorer in all new machines.

In addition to the Office-Explorer trade-off, the pact called for Microsoft to purchase $150 million in Apple stock and for Apple to drop a long-standing patent lawsuit. Current Apple CEO Steve Jobs hailed the announcement at Macworld Expo in August 1997 as a much-needed boost for Apple, but many Mac fans were unconvinced. The agreement, however, expires this summer, raising the question of whether the two companies--which have long had a love-hate relationship--will reaffirm their commitments or begin to drift apart.

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#1 By 20 (168.215.253.242) at 2/22/2002 12:06:11 PM
Yes, apple does suck. However, there are enough people using Mac OS X and the new iMac now for Microsoft to continue making a profit at making Office for that platform. Everyone stands to benefit from it.

I think most Mac users realize that IE is a much better browser than Netscape even on the Mac, and I think they know that Office is pretty good on the Mac, so I other than blind hatred of MS, there's no reason why anyone should view this as a bad thing.

#2 By 1658 (128.255.174.12) at 2/22/2002 12:12:44 PM
This is funny to a certain extent... Nothing has even happened yet and the rants are flowing! :)

#3 By 3653 (68.53.80.99) at 2/22/2002 3:41:24 PM
Microsoft should get some decent concessions from Apple this time around. 5 years ago, they got distribution for IE... but that shouldn't be enough this time. Apple won't likely push .wma or .wmv for them, so thats out. I would like to see MS push Apple to support .Net wholeheartedly and to be a huge passport client (haven't you noticed that Apple isn't a member of the Liberty Alliance?).

And contrary to what many think, Microsoft doesn't want to see Apple dead. Hell, those suckers are identified as having money to burn... so they might as well hand some of it over to Microsoft.

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 2/22/2002 4:18:58 PM
Microsoft should demand the iPod support Windows and WMA. :-)

#5 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 2/23/2002 12:52:25 AM
#7 - Did Rashid develop the kernel while he was at Microsoft, or before?

Doesn't make any difference to your point, of course... I'm simply curious.

#6 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 2/23/2002 4:23:39 PM
#14 - You HAVE to be kidding if you think OS/2 died because of licensing agreements from Microsoft.

IBM screwed up BIG time. Think about it... when OS/2 was at its peak, IBM had FAR more resources than Microsoft. They made the choice not to push OS/2, as they saw it as a threat to their centralized computing model.

At any rate, exclusive contracts are one of the most competitive things a company CAN do. Offering a product at a lower price than everybody else to gain marketshare? Bastards!

Anyway, there has already been a big argument on these forums about BeOS. It's the same red herring that Linux is. RedHat was offered preinstalled for over a year by Dell, but their sales were so low they were losing millions on the venture, so they stopped. Do you honestly think an OS with a fraction of the software titles of Linux would have done better?

#7 By 3653 (68.53.80.99) at 2/23/2002 11:04:41 PM
RMD, your problem is you form your opinion based on facts and logic. To fully understand some of those on this board... you must first admit that facts and logic are worthless. You simply need to rely on your overwhelming hatred for the market leader.

#8 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 2/24/2002 3:18:04 PM
#14 - OS/2 was quite a horrible product. I supported a 1200 user installation of it back in '96, and our users were thrilled to hear we were moving to Windows.

#15 - Agreed, IBM didn't commit itself to OS/2. Even in '96 IBM was more committed to providing software drivers for their hardware to work under Windows than under OS/2.

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