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Windows Vista release slips to end of 2006 | |
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| Time: 10:06 EST/15:06 GMT | News Source: TechWorld | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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Windows Vista won't be released until the end of 2006, a Microsoft exec let slip in a presentation on Microsoft's campus yesterday. The next version of Windows was expected in the second half of 2006, but at a financial analyst conference in Washington, Microsoft senior VP Will Poole revealed it would not appear until the 2006 US holiday season. | ||
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| #1 By 9549 (12.150.6.130) at 7/29/2005 10:18:57 AM |
| Isn't the 2006 holiday season in the second half of 2006? |
| #2 By 15406 (24.43.125.29) at 7/29/2005 11:13:04 AM |
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And it pretty much guarantees that it will slip to 2007.
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| #3 By 1845 (204.110.225.254) at 7/29/2005 11:24:14 AM |
| Who's "we", Mr. Royal Plural? Second half is second half. Third quarter is third quarter. If they meant Q3, they'd have said Q3. If they meant some time in Q3 or Q4, they say second half...which is just what they said. It's two years later than the speculation in their court filings in '02 about some time in late '04, but it's still right in line with what was said last year - some time in second half of '06 in time for the holiday season. No news here. |
| #4 By 8556 (12.217.170.92) at 7/29/2005 12:09:22 PM |
| The "slip" may have been designed by MS marketing to lower consumer expectations. If the product ships earlier than the 2006 holiday season, which it likely will as OEM's need the new OS in October to incorporate into new PCs and to boost holiday sales, MS may claim to be "ahead of schedule". |
| #5 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 7/29/2005 1:30:59 PM |
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Well, that didn't take long :)
TL |
| #6 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 7/29/2005 2:01:06 PM |
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Bob,
Ah, yes. The ol' Scotty (James Doohan) method of looking good. Say it will take a week, fix it in 2 days, and look like a hero :) TL |
| #7 By 7760 (12.155.143.50) at 7/29/2005 6:04:45 PM |
| This isn't news. Anyone who ever read "second half" and thought it'd be anything other than the very end of '06 was being naive. Besides, half of the estimates that I've read over the last 6 months have said "end of '06" or "4th Q, '06" anyways. |
| #8 By 3653 (68.52.61.116) at 7/29/2005 8:00:17 PM |
| Osprey, the only folks surprised are the haters (latch and techlarry). They understand the English language as well as we do... but their HATE gets in the way. Its a sad sickness they have. |
| #9 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 7/30/2005 12:47:00 AM |
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Semantics aside, it seems like an eternity since I first installed XP on my current machine and bought MS stock.
Doesn’t look like either one has done much since then. On the upside my three year old computer still seems to run XP fine. Wonder how it would do with Vista? |
| #10 By 1845 (67.172.237.116) at 7/30/2005 12:32:06 PM |
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Hmm. If you had purchased $1,000 of Microsoft stock on 25 Oct 2001 (XP's launch date), it would be worth $1637.40. I think a 63% increase is rather good. The fact that the stock is now dividend yield is an extra bonus.
As for XP, I'm not sure what you'd expect a product to add to itself after your initial purchase. If you look at the free addons to Windows 2000 and compare them to Windows XP, I'd say you got quite a deal with Windows XP. Now, don't get me wrong, Microsoft's stock hasn't been terribly impressive lately, but it isn't a growth stock anymore, so you should expect it to have the same behavior it had in the 80's and 90's. As for XP, I'm as anxious as the next guy for a new version, but the current one isn't magically breaking just because it hasn't been surpassed yet. Seems to me like you are complaining about nothing, which would explain why there is so little meat in your post. |
| #11 By 61 (65.32.175.192) at 7/30/2005 12:48:03 PM |
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Personally, I think that MS's stock price is undervalued. I mean, Microsoft is a very stable company, they aren't going to die off anytime soon, lots of research going on, expanding markets, etc...
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| #12 By 8556 (12.217.111.121) at 7/30/2005 2:34:19 PM |
| CPUGuy: How is MS stock undervalued with about 10 BILLION shares outstanding? What is the real asset value of Microsoft? $290 billion dollars seems a bit high for a software company. |
| #13 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at 7/30/2005 2:56:46 PM |
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Bobsireno: we could fill entire libraries with books about how to determine stocks "fair value". Personally I like to consider, among other parameters, the P/E. Although I believe it will take six to twelwe months for the real estate bubble to burst I have lately disinvested there and begun to accumulate stocks; among others: Cnet and MS.
Of course you could invest in Russia stock market or buy Argentina bonds for pennies and have a much higher return if everything goes well but this would be a very speculative investment with a much higher risk. Disclaimer: I consider 10/12% per year a good return for a "relatively" safe investment. |
| #14 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 7/30/2005 3:19:31 PM |
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bobsir -
My MSN stock ticker must be different than yours. The reference price of an MS share in Oct 2001 was $29 a share. If you care to look at Friday's closing price it’s at $25 and change. I don't see that as a positive. If you look at another post today on AW you'll see that even Balmer is pissed because his stock options are worth less than they were when he became CEO. Face it MS hasn't got it anymore. No buzz and no pizzazz; but what can you expect from such a behemoth. It’s a safe corporate company. It makes software like GM makes cars, in a word, boring. Where’s the innovation. All I see is the “me too” MS. I think the company would be better off without Gates or Balmer. Get rid of these guys and the stock would take flight again |
| #15 By 3653 (68.52.61.116) at 7/30/2005 8:29:56 PM |
| Would be curious what position you hold in professional life, oldog. You seem to think you are qualified to critique the personnel decisions at the most successful company in the last 2 decades (if you disagree, name a company more successful over that time period). |
| #16 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 7/31/2005 12:28:33 AM |
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mooresa56 -
I'm certainly not in the software business, and I most assuredly could not have done what Mr. Gates has. Not in a million years. But that doesn’t mean I’m wrong. MS needs new ideas. It’s got the management thing down pat. Without a doubt MS is one of the best managed corporations in the world. That’s why I hold their stock. Nevertheless, MS is becoming the George Bush Sr. of software; they just don’t seem to have the “vision thing” anymore. Everything MS does these days seems to be reacting to the market not leading it. If I had any sway I would tell MS to go back to the old days and make a very cheap and visually boring business OS that worked lightning fast on the cheapest machines, and had good security. Why would anyone bother with Linux in this scenario. Drop Media Player (so the EU could stop griping about MS and I can get my employees to stop screwing around with this stuff) and sell this business OS to the third world at prices that would even kill off the pirates. Imagine a business machine for $200 that works. No need to ever upgrade a machine. It becomes disposable. The home version and the media version of the OS become one. Get a crew of design guys that can build the coolest looking features into this OS and kick the crap out of Apple. This one should dazzle on the latest hardware, cost bucks and it should be upgraded Apple style yearly for a price. Why should MS be eating Apple’s and Google’s dust? |
| #17 By 11888 (64.230.64.80) at 7/31/2005 12:55:40 AM |
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"Everything MS does these days seems to be reacting to the market not leading it. "
oldog - you got it! That's the problem. Think about it though, the answer isn't that complicated. The company starts with smart people with great ideas, the ideas catch on and the company grows, then the creative types who were driving the company before get replaced with the sales types because it is assumed that they're not good business people. Those people don't want to innovate or take on a lot of risk because while it can have great reward, it also has great risk. They scope out the market, find a safe direction and follow it. You get nice stock performance and let the other guys take on the risk of innovating and pushing the market forward. BTW, don't read too much into mooresa56's posts. He's kind of a troll around these parts. He's got pockets full of flame bait. |
| #18 By 9589 (65.191.158.232) at 7/31/2005 1:10:23 AM |
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#15 Old Dog, keep in mind that Microsoft stock was split in February 2003. So, if you owned Microsoft stock in Oct 2001 you would have nearly doubled your money holding on to the stock until today including dividends.
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| #19 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 7/31/2005 2:05:15 AM |
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jd -
Thanks for the correction. Point well taken. I guess I’ll have to keep Gates on my fantasy CEO team, but Balmer is a trade to Google for a future draft pick from India. |
| #20 By 32313 (208.163.63.50) at 7/31/2005 6:32:13 PM |
| Lots more Windows XP's to sell until Q4 2006. |
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