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  Mozilla: IE 7 to boost Firefox growth
Time: 02:36 EST/07:36 GMT | News Source: CNET | Posted By: Robert Stein

The Mozilla Foundation is expecting to see a surge in interest in the Firefox browser from enterprise users once Microsoft launches Internet Explorer 7 next year. IE 7, which will be available in beta this summer, will not be available to users of Windows 2000. Asa Dotzler, the community coordinator at the Mozilla Foundation, said Tuesday that he hopes to attract many corporate Windows 2000 users to the Firefox browser, since they will be unable to take advantage of the improvements in IE 7.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 7/20/2005 9:27:52 AM
I'm betting MS will flip-flop (again) and backport it to W2K just to prevent any defections to Firefox, not because they give a damn about W2K users.

#2 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 7/20/2005 9:55:20 AM
Oh please, that would NEVER happen! ;)

#3 By 23603 (216.94.216.26) at 7/20/2005 11:40:07 AM
"that he hopes to attract many corporate Windows 2000 "

If corporate IT manager are competent, they WILL NEVER install Firefox in a managed environnement.


#4 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 7/20/2005 11:58:36 AM
Firefox needs something...they have next to ZERO users right now.

#5 By 2332 (204.9.221.59) at 7/20/2005 12:48:21 PM
#4 - You do have a point. IE is very easy to manage via Active Directory Group Policy.

If Firefox had some kind of policy integration I think it would spur a lot of adoption in the corporate environment.

#6 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 7/20/2005 2:58:55 PM
"If Firefox had some kind of policy integration I think it would spur a lot of adoption in the corporate environment."

I believe this is an area that is being worked on for the upcoming versions of Firefox.

"Firefox needs something...they have next to ZERO users right now."

http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,39020463,39209577,00.htm

"If you look at all of statistics they average out to us being about 10 percent of the Web. There are estimated to be about 1 billion Web users, which means there are about 100 million Firefox users out there. It has only been downloaded about 65 million times, so the other users are people who got it some other way. The most likely place they are likely to have got it from is corporate deployments."

100 million .. yep thats next to ZERO

Your the same guy that predicted along with Parkker that Firefox would not achive 10% by the end of 2005. Well its July and 10% has already been reached. I wonder what percentage of visitors to this website use Firefox. Do you have access to those numbers Brian? Are you willing to share the information with us?

This post was edited by tgnb on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 at 15:00.

#7 By 37 (24.183.40.241) at 7/20/2005 6:30:18 PM
100 million .. yep thats next to ZERO

ROFL!!! I have downloaded Firefox WELL over 10 times...and I am not even an OSS guy.

Sorry, their figures are WAY SKEWED.

"Your the same guy that predicted along with Parkker that Firefox would not achive 10% by the end of 2005. Well its July and 10% has already been reached. I wonder what percentage of visitors to this website use Firefox. Do you have access to those numbers Brian? Are you willing to share the information with us?"

I stand by the claim, and stay it's true. I bet it's closer to 2-3 percent. And I will see if I can get those Awin FF figures for ya.

This post was edited by AWBrian on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 at 18:40.

#8 By 11888 (64.230.33.52) at 7/20/2005 7:41:35 PM
I checked some server stats that I have access to and Firefox was 7.65% for June 2005; IE was 81.56%.

June 2004 had 0.78% using Firefox.

This post was edited by MrRoper on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 at 19:45.

#9 By 37 (24.183.40.241) at 7/20/2005 9:20:40 PM
My site has 98% IE.

However, AWIN has LESS than 10% of the users using Firefox, and more than 90% using IE.

#10 By 11888 (64.230.33.52) at 7/21/2005 8:12:37 AM
Are you making those numbers up on the spot? They don't make sense. Unless you're hosting in another dimension, then all is well.

#11 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 7/21/2005 11:18:44 AM
"100 million .. yep thats next to ZERO"

How many unique visitors does the ActiveWin website have? next to ZERO?


Firefox Statistics: http://ff.asbjorn.it/

In particular this graph is of interest:

http://ff.asbjorn.it/marketshare.php

It shows graphs for Firefox Market share as measured by 5 different companies.

The 3 companies that have current data show Firefox above 10% market share in July.
The other 2 haven't released data in the past 2 months. I'd expect them to confirm this trend when the new numbers come out. So as far as i can tell Firefox has more than 10% market share.

If you have a better source of information i'd be happy to take a look.

This post was edited by tgnb on Thursday, July 21, 2005 at 11:20.

#12 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 7/21/2005 2:47:32 PM
"Are you making those numbers up on the spot? They don't make sense. Unless you're hosting in another dimension, then all is well. "

Nope.


#13 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 7/21/2005 2:53:18 PM
"How many unique visitors does the ActiveWin website have? next to ZERO?"

Where do you get your information?

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