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Microsoft to use Longhorn to secure Web | |
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| Time: 06:50 EST/11:50 GMT | News Source: the inquirer | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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MICROSOFT will tackle the growing fear of identity theft in its upcoming version of Windows, codenamed Longhorn, with a technology it calls ‘info-cards’, the Wall Street Journal reported today. The scheme bears a resemblance to the Passport scheme Microsoft tried reasonably unsuccessfully to introduce to its online services like MSN and Hotmail, as it relies on users being willing to hand over their personal data to 'trusted' companies. Info-cards, said the Journal, will allow users to "selectively disclose information about themselves to businesses or others online". The software will store users’ personal information such as credit-card numbers or phone numbers and allow data to be transferred in an encrypted form "that can be decoded only by trusted Web sites". | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 10:52:02 AM |
| Yes, this sounds a lot like Assport. But since nobody trusts Microsoft, nobody will use it and it will die. Either that, or MS will attach such ridiculous terms to it that the other vendors won't support it, with the end result being the same death. But you have to hand it to MS; they keep trying to own the Internet and all your data. |
| #2 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 11:28:09 AM |
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#3: I think you're confused by the effects of MS' monopoly. Monopoly != Trust This post was edited by Latch on Monday, March 28, 2005 at 11:30. |
| #3 By 6859 (206.156.242.39) at 3/28/2005 11:51:43 AM |
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Generally speaking, people use and trust MS because the alternatives kind of suck. You have Mac OSX, which looks groovy, but is lacing for the applications that many businesses need; and you have Linux/BSD which doesn't look groovy, is "arcane" to many, and also is limited in the applications that they may need.
For MS to be truly hurt, the F/OSS and Mac folks need to totally begin to pump out the apps. Porting Mac OSX to i686 would be a wise move too, since not many business managers are hip to buying overpriced and underpowered hardware. |
| #4 By 9589 (66.26.227.109) at 3/28/2005 11:51:48 AM |
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While the usual suspects throwup over the latest Microsoft news, this just in, Amazon Knows Who You Are. For the details go to: http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,67034,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_8 .
Yahoo even has a patent now for tracking the people that you buy gifts for! But, let's all obsess about something Microsoft may or may not do and forget about Big Brother er . . . Amazon.com! Its an ABM (anyone but Microsoft) company. So, who cares, right? |
| #5 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 3/28/2005 12:08:16 PM |
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"Nobody except 100 million Windows users globally"
Hmm i'm one of those 100 million Windows users but I don't trust them. I also know plenty of other Windows users who don't trust Microsoft. Believe it or not but many People use windows in spite of their mistrust for Microsoft. |
| #6 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 2:56:01 PM |
| As opposed to the MS fanboys who'd rather hug Bill Gates. Nobody wants to hug Steve Ballmer, but that's understandable. |
| #7 By 13030 (198.22.121.120) at 3/28/2005 3:32:00 PM |
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#2: Nobody except 100 million Windows users globally...
I don't trust MSFT and would prefer not to give them any more information about me than necessary. I also use Windows and own MSFT stock. Trust, regulation, and prudence are three very different things: none of which MSFT has mastered yet. My bank, on the other hand, seems pretty good at these things proven by my long account history, Federal laws and regulations, and stiff competition. #6: ...this just in, Amazon Knows Who You Are. <gomer>Surprise, surprise, surprise</gomer> Most big retailers have been doing this for years in a variety of ways. For example, merchants get an interchange (rate) discount when they send line item details for your credit card charges. This data feeds an industry with information about what you buy. Imagine your insurance company paying to get the line item details from your grocery store trips. Hmmm... steaks, bread, milk, ice cream, no veggies... adjust his life insurance rate next renewel. Why are there so many gimmicky programs attached to credit cards? Because the data of your many purchases, small and big, is much more valuable than the airline ticket they're giving you in return. #12: As opposed to the MS fanboys who'd rather hug Bill Gates. Easy there pardner... Parker is sensitive about his Bill Gates doll. This post was edited by ch on Monday, March 28, 2005 at 15:35. |
| #8 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 3:57:04 PM |
| #14: The analogy of banks is very apt. In the early days, MS didn't have to care about security at all because the security aspect did not have any impact on their business and bottom line. Their goal was to make computing as easy as possible -- period. Banks, on the other hand, had to have top-level security or they would simply be fscked. In other words, the well-being of a bank depends on its security. MS is just coming around to realizing that its well-being is starting to be tied to its security. I do believe that eventually MS will get it right, but that it will take at least 10-15 more years to get there. |
| #9 By 15406 (216.191.227.90) at 3/28/2005 4:52:26 PM |
| #16, C'mon, get it right. You use the Linux... nick when you're posting semi-rational posts and the ClosedMind nick when posting your silly posts. You seem to have gotten your split personalities mixed up. |
| #10 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 3/28/2005 5:00:16 PM |
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"2) the Passport implementation sucked."
I would have to say that is the case...not that MS wasn't trusted. |
| #11 By 9589 (66.26.227.109) at 3/28/2005 5:47:49 PM |
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#14, Well, I guess so long as your bank isn't the largest retail bank on the planet, Bank America, that would be true. You must have seen this article: http://news.com.com/Bank+of+America+loses+a+million+customer+records/2100-1029_3-5590989.html?tag=nefd.top
What the above article fails to mention is that BofA didn't bother to mention anything about the lost tapes for months! |
| #12 By 931 (67.33.130.52) at 3/29/2005 12:49:55 AM |
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How you go from MSFT and the identity market space to WMD is beyond me.. but judging on your remarks I think I can understand just how illogical your mind operates.
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| #13 By 931 (67.33.130.52) at 3/29/2005 1:32:35 AM |
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..dont have to.. already had. But I didn't want to get into it as it required logic and common sense... which is sometimes quite lacking around this place.
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| #14 By 12071 (203.173.49.228) at 3/29/2005 6:18:35 AM |
| #22 What Parkker meant to say was "bugger! still no WMD... but I'll keep posting crap to make it seem as if there was - especially from other brainwashed right-wing types who cannot admit that there are no WMD - unless the US of A is currently busy putting some there!". |
| #15 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 3/29/2005 11:38:24 AM |
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kabuki - Naw. It's simpler than that, he's lowering the bar. That is... he's now saying dynamite is a WMD.
The sad, simple truth is... They wanted to believe there were WMDs, and so when Iran started feeding them intelligence stating there were... they sucked it up. Why? Cause Iran is still bitter about us helping Iraq back in the 1980s when they invaded Iran. I think that's what is truly sad here, that in their lust to gain political power they turned our nation into a stooge for our enemies. |
| #16 By 19992 (164.214.4.31) at 3/29/2005 12:24:28 PM |
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jdhawk said
What the above article fails to mention is that BofA didn't bother to mention anything about the lost tapes for months! Actually, they did inform their larger corporate customers within a week. IIRC an NDA type agreement was made with these customers to withhold the info from the general public for a period of 2 months. |
| #17 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 3/29/2005 2:16:53 PM |
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LinuxIsTheft - I can't quite figure out what is more ridiculous. You're shrill justification for the Iraq invasion... or the fact that you're now quoting left-wing newspapers from the UK. What? Couldn't find something from the Moonie Times?
Ohwell, at least I get some good laughs from your idiocy. |
| #18 By 135 (24.163.245.167) at 3/29/2005 7:42:16 PM |
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LinuxIsTheft - Pot-Kettle-Black...
Grow up, parkker. There is a whole big world out there, and your repeating of wingnut talking points isn't a sign of intelligence. |
| #19 By 135 (24.163.245.167) at 3/29/2005 10:57:47 PM |
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LinuxIsTheft - Whatever.
You sank below msucks level, by accusing me of supporting dictators and mass murderers, simply because I disagree with the unwise tactics used by the Bush administration. It's impossible to have a civil factual argument with you because you are incapable of civility and delivery of facts. It's as simple as that. http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2005/03/23/opinion/edbremmer.html |
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