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| Time: 07:45 EST/12:45 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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Welcome to Microsoft Windows Update Version 6 Beta. Thank you for your interest in Microsoft Windows Update version 6 Beta site. This site previews the next version of Windows Update. Before proceeding, please read the following terms and conditions carefully. To access the site and participate in the beta program you must be a registered Windows Update Beta user. Registering provides you with the tools, information and agreements necessary to experience this beta release fully. If you are not part of the Windows Update Beta program, you must register before proceeding below. For more information please visit the Microsoft Beta homepage or email mubeta@microsoft.com. | ||
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| #1 By 2138 (81.182.85.37) at 2/12/2005 10:19:37 AM |
| i am confused, i have not received my letter telling me that the beta is up and running but when i go to the WU site it tells me to install the new software. i have been getting the emails about the new WU 6 but not the letter telling me to update yet. |
| #2 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/12/2005 12:39:47 PM |
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Intalls just fine - provides more information about the updates and more control over what is updated and how. I like it. This post was edited by lketchum on Saturday, February 12, 2005 at 12:40. |
| #3 By 143 (68.73.144.6) at 2/12/2005 3:47:07 PM |
| I wish Firefox could use windows update or better to have a scan utility that wouldn't need browser access. |
| #4 By 415 (69.245.189.5) at 2/12/2005 5:34:47 PM |
| There is a scan util that doesn't need a browser. It's called Automatic Updates. ;-) |
| #5 By 29967 (68.0.222.48) at 2/12/2005 8:51:03 PM |
| Why do you suppose they are creating a new version of WU so soon after release of WUV5??? Prep for longhorn beta, perhaps??? |
| #6 By 143 (68.73.144.6) at 2/12/2005 9:33:28 PM |
| @IronCladLou but Auto-Update is for Critical updates only... darn no options |
| #7 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/12/2005 11:51:02 PM |
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#6, If I were a betting man, I'd say to function alongside WUS, or Windows Update Services coming for W2K3 server at about the same time as W2K3 SP1.
It will be a huge help for SMB's and or prviders managing large numbers of small networks. The new client will interoperate with a central WUS management component. |
| #8 By 5444 (69.30.184.64) at 2/13/2005 12:18:15 PM |
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iketchum, ahh but the Odds would be really low on that bet:)
Now if we get the integrated Office updates etc that was promised as coming. I do like the new layout though:) but why ohh why are we still getting active x controls. ?? el |
| #9 By 5444 (69.30.184.64) at 2/13/2005 1:45:36 PM |
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#10,
well wenn I said the odds are Low I meant that in a betting sense.;) not taking the Long shot or high odds. 20 to 1 but more like 1 to 1. In Other words placeing that bet while it would get your money back would be even money.:) el |
| #10 By 415 (69.245.189.5) at 2/13/2005 10:02:44 PM |
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iketchum is right. WUS and WU 6 are meant to change it all. They will no longer be used solely for critical updates. This post was edited by IronCladLou on Sunday, February 13, 2005 at 22:03. |
| #11 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/14/2005 1:46:03 AM |
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#9 Of course, a COM Client is used - how else would one invoke remote code execution?
I've gone over that so often, that ActiveX is a COM Client - one among many and invoking remote methods - again, one among many. The way, it and all COM Clients are handled in Windows has been very much improved upon. ActiveX was designed to allow such code to be signed and verified [as safe!]. Regretfully, many bad people were able to properly sign code and pass malicious code onto people who had not adjusted how such code was to be handled. ActiveX support for Mozilla browsers has been out there for a very long time - it simply allows these browsers to use this COM Client. Now back to something more relevant... Yes, the new update client will work with WUS, Office and very likely all forms of software - very likely third party software like Adobe, third party AV SW and much more. It is designed to provide for better management and control and more effectively inform users and admins. It is a great idea and and will make operating one, or many systems a lot easier and a lot more profitable - especially among businesses and even busy families. You may count on the browser and OS being very different in the future - more manageable, far more secure than any software and owing to how they are to operate as part of a well integrated system of systems. Interoperability with most SW products and far better systems to allow third parties to integarte their SW to the platform will be present. The effort is about how the platform matures and makes irrelevant the negative aspects of machine processing as it delivers a far better experience for all people. One of the saddest things I see is the self-imposed limits this industry appears to set as goals for itself... As if we've reached all that SW can do... and we're left to haggle over what "existing" software of thirty year old platform to use. That's not what we were meant to do - not what God intended for us. In that spirit, we weren't meant to chase each other around over patches, updates and malicious code - being shaped by criminals. We were meant to "aspire" and then achieve. This and many measures are designed to restore our ability to make that our focus. |
| #12 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/14/2005 1:52:18 AM |
| Oh....and central caching - even online of installation files..... "Ever get sick of chasing just the right CD in order to do an update?" The Genuine Windows SW and voluntary validation are designed to allow for that - of course, many like ourselves do that either locally, or on our networks, but wouldn't it be nice for those that play by the rules and the law to be able to benefit from validated, genuine code that was "just there" when we needed it to do mass updates or push down a new SPAM filter? It is about making it easier, better and more consistent. I pay for my software - all of it. I am sick of having my experience shaped by halfwits that shape the experience I have. OS, Office, and others...update thyselves and get and stay out of my way...."Do you think, even senior executives that know all of this, don't also encounter it?" It is high time it changed back to all of our favor and the entire process made transparent - restoring the platform and its networks to suite our real needs and desires. |
| #13 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 2/14/2005 11:47:54 AM |
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It's too bad that Firefox can't use ActiveX components, or it could work with the Windows Update Site.
Not that it matters. This kind of complaint is equivalent to whining about being hung with a used rope. |
| #14 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 2/15/2005 1:20:23 AM |
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#15, please see, http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm You'll find where the state of dev for this is presently. There is a great deal of interest in using ActiveX - the pros definately appear to be seen as worth the effort - as a COM Client, ActiveX offers a great deal.
Oh, and it's not an MS "thing" either - IBM and many others, including Sun are behind it and have been for some 1000+ controls and their own methods based upon ActiveX. Sun uses its RPC on TCP 111 for transport [often a wide open attack path for many a newb who thinks that only MS writes code, or unsecured code...]. I see this stuff and just gack - just really gack - I wonder, "Why oh why do the pundits persist?" There is no science supporting so much that is just lapped up as fact... Truly scary! |
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