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  Microsoft may charge extra for security software
Time: 12:28 EST/17:28 GMT | News Source: Associated Press | Posted By: Todd Richardson

Microsoft Corp. disclosed plans Thursday to offer frustrated users of its Windows software new tools within 30 days to remove spyware programs secretly running on computers. But it might cost extra in coming months.

In a shift from past practice, the world's largest software manufacturer said it may charge consumers for future versions of the new protective technology, which Microsoft acquired by buying a small New York software firm. Terms of the sale of Giant Company Software Inc. weren't disclosed.

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#1 By 2332 (66.228.91.60) at 12/17/2004 12:42:56 PM
And if they didn't, they would get sued by AdAware and Spybot.

Can't have it both ways, people.

#2 By 11131 (64.132.138.66) at 12/17/2004 12:52:13 PM
Why would I pay for the MS version when AdAware and others are free and just as good? But I guess that the hardcore MS fans would buy it :)

#3 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 12/17/2004 12:56:06 PM
I would buy it *if* it were a good product. I guess we shall wait and see.

#4 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 12/17/2004 1:42:23 PM
Generate the need AND generate the cure. For a price.

Bill Gates has a wonderful life :)

TL

#5 By 2332 (66.228.91.60) at 12/17/2004 1:45:09 PM
#4 - Popularity and success generated the need. If Apple or Linux was on 90% of the world's computers, then it would be Apple or Redhat making these announcements, not Microsoft.

#6 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 12/17/2004 1:46:37 PM
""Spyware usually gets on your computer through human error," said Marc Maiffret of eEye Digital Security Inc., which regularly discovers serious Windows flaws."

That USED to be the case, and 6 months ago I would have agreed 100% with this statement.

Not any more.

The development of the "Drive-By" Spyware Install has change all this, and it is SOLELY due to holes in Internet Explore that this is capable of happening.

This is NOT a Myth. It has been seen in action.

TL

#7 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at 12/17/2004 1:49:01 PM
By generating the 'need' I refer to the holes in IE that allow such things.

IMHO, there will be no true IE browser security as long as ActiveX and other security holes exist in IE.

TL

#8 By 6253 (67.166.215.191) at 12/17/2004 3:05:42 PM
al_fiend, Ad-Aware SE Personal is free for home use (non-commercial). If you use it in a business (even a home-based business), you are required to purchase a license for Ad-Aware SE Plus or Professional. (Lavasoft also sells the additional features of Plus & Professional to home users, telling you that they are intentionally making sure that the free version will never become "too" good.)

SpyBot S&D is the closest thing to full-featured anti-spyware that you can get for free, including commercial use. While SpyBot is far better than nothing, it is only about 60-80% effective. If you're lucky, you'll never get any spyware from the other 20-40% but don't kid yourself: the anti-spyware industry is in its infancy. It's too early to call any winners, freeware or otherwise.

#9 By 7797 (68.142.9.161) at 12/17/2004 8:36:44 PM
" If Apple or Linux was on 90% of the world's computers, then it would be Apple or Redhat making these announcements, not Microsoft."

No. Because on Apple and Linux users aren't system administrators by default.

#10 By 8556 (12.217.111.74) at 12/18/2004 11:21:06 AM
#2: I’ve cleaned spyware from dozens of PC’s. Giant’s program repeatedly removed deeply buried spyware that Ad-Aware and Spybot both miss even with the latest updates. The unfortunate thing about spyware is that one occasionally needs to use 3 or even 4 programs, and some occasional registry tweaking, to fully clean the evil stuff from a PC.

#11 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 12/18/2004 10:44:44 PM
techlarry, you act like your precious steve jobs isn't doing the same thing.

Hypocrite.

You tired of paying for MacOS X updates yet? If I remember correctly, you apple-ites have bought 3 versions of OS X so far? I guess "creating a need" isn't confined to BillG, is it.

#12 By 7711 (68.39.157.214) at 12/19/2004 4:08:50 PM
#15

"Also, whether or not Linux is on 90% of PCs has nothing to do with its advantages concerning fending off spyware. "

I think you missed #5's point. Since Windows has such a large user %age, and OSX/Linux has such a small amount, spyware and virus writers aren't wasting their time on those OS's. If either of these two were in MS's position of OS dominance, THEY would be having the spyware/virus woes. It's a simple case of most bang for the writer's buck.

#13 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 12/19/2004 7:36:16 PM
OFF-TOPIC - check out Novell's homepage. There's a nice Suse Linux error.

http://www.novell.com/ redirects to...

http://www.novell.com/inc/util/language_selector.jsp?url=http%3A//www.novell.com/

If they can't even properly configure their own software, what chance do the rest of us have.

This post was edited by mooresa56 on Sunday, December 19, 2004 at 19:36.

#14 By 3653 (68.54.224.219) at 12/19/2004 7:40:00 PM
God help the webmaster. .jsp linux and apache

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@novell.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.


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Apache/2.0.48 (SUSE LINUX) Server at www.novell.com Port 80

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