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  Converting ASP to ASP.NET
Time: 11:56 EST/16:56 GMT | News Source: Microsoft | Posted By: Robert Stein

"One of the first things you are likely to notice when working with ASP.NET is the new file extension: ASP.NET pages use .aspx, as opposed to the .asp extension used with ASP. Additionally, when an ASP.NET page is requested, IIS hands off the request to the aspnet_wp.exe process; ASP uses asp.dll. ASP and ASP.NET can both be used on the same Web server. That is, a Web site or Web application within a site can contain both ASP.NET pages and ASP pages. Because both ASP and ASP.NET pages can be accessed from the same Web server, you are not required to port your existing ASP pages over to ASP.NET-compatible pages."

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#1 By 116 (129.116.86.41) at 11/16/2001 12:13:58 PM
Thats a plus. Is ActiveWin going to eventually move everything over to ASP.NET?

#2 By 3 (62.253.128.4) at 11/16/2001 12:30:40 PM
;o)

#3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/17/2001 5:31:57 AM
#5, and #7 - While one could argue PHP vs. ASP, and have some good points on both sides (although ASP would win, imho), there is NO argument in ASP.NET vs. PHP.

They simply can't be compared. ASP.NET is on an entirely different level as far as speed, scalability, and robustness - not to mention development time, code upkeep and maintenance.

#4 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/17/2001 4:17:33 PM
#10 - What licensing costs? The .NET Framework is a 100% free download, and includes ASP.NET and the vb.net, C#, managed C++ and Jscript.net compilers. It will always be that way.

I assume you're talking about that wonderful piece of misinformation propagated by Slashdot which suggested writing .NET applications cost developers money. Try getting your news from more than one source. .NET is FREE. The .NET My Services, Microsoft's own implementation of .NET, cost money for developers to incorporate into their applications.

There is an "Enterprise" edition of ASP.NET, which includes various additional features like the ability to store state on SQL Server or another ODBC happy database. All of these features are handy, but there is no reason why a developer couldn't write them on their own. Simply using HTTP Modules I've written a basic state management application that allows me to store state in a centralized data store. (In this case, Access.) Microsoft provides the "enterprise" edition in hopes that people won't want to take the time to write their own stuff, and will simply purchase the enterprise edition. The standard edition, which has all the speed, scalability, and robustness of the Enterprise edition, is free with Windows Server products.

Being tied to the Windows OS is not given either. The very nature of .NET (based on open standards, and the CLR submitted as a standard itself) lends it to ports, and new implementations. Microsoft is betting that their implementation will be the best one, and so people will use Windows for .NET applications.

As far as "supposed"... here ya go:

http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/compare/default.aspx

I've also done my own tests, and you can't even really compare ASP.NET to ASP. The speed difference is simply massive.

#5 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 11/19/2001 6:48:48 AM
#12 - Yes. A *very* noticable increase... as in orders of magnitude faster. During some of my beta 2 testing I compared the results from a COM (ATL) and ASP solution to a ASP.NET solution, and the results were in the range of 33 to 40 times (yes, TIMES) faster for ASP.NET. I consider myself fairly adept at both ATL COM and ASP, and only a beginner at ASP.NET, so if anything, these are on the low end of the spectrum of speed differences.

I'm in the process of writing an article about .NET, including these benchmarks. It will be done shortly. When it is, I will be sure to post the PDF somewhere on these forums.

#6 By 1845 (207.173.73.201) at 11/19/2001 10:19:57 AM
Since we are all users of open formats, you could post it as a Word doc. :-)

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