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Time: 20:09 EST/01:09 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: William Sossamon

To prevent the other boards from being inundated with political posts, and so we can all have a place to yell and scream, please post your comments about the election here. Just to get things started, go Bush Kerry!

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#1 By 665 (198.51.49.2) at 11/2/2004 8:39:51 PM
We stick to MS news a lot better than most other "windows" sites... I don't see the problem with occasionally opening up threads specifically for big topics that get discussed anyway, only in threads that don't relate.

#2 By 1643 (204.210.28.138) at 11/2/2004 10:05:20 PM
go GW!!!

#3 By 2 (24.239.197.85) at 11/2/2004 11:24:31 PM
ActiveWin.com supports John Kerry.

#4 By 1845 (67.169.248.36) at 11/2/2004 11:37:59 PM
With such an official declaration, other bob, parker might never visit again.

#5 By 11131 (64.132.138.66) at 11/3/2004 9:21:40 AM
Yeah, it looks like the Amercian voters want 4 more years of the same -- higher gas prices, more national debt, more un-employeed people, higher health insurance premiums, more war/dead soldiers, etc ......

Alister

#6 By 1643 (204.210.28.138) at 11/3/2004 12:26:40 PM
Long live the great experiment that has forever changed the world.

It's nice to see the empty rhetoric, sensationalism, and blind ideology hasn't won a majority over common sense and conviction.


#7 By 19992 (164.214.4.62) at 11/3/2004 2:36:05 PM
Dammit, a small part of me hoped Kerry won... Oh well, I guess I won't mount the old Soviet flag to the house after all.

I can't even mount my Third Reich flag either - Kerry lost. Lyndon LaRouche (stupid fascist) is probably foaming at the mouth over this. Maybe I'll go wave the US flag outside of his compound.

Parkker - I say we hit the UN first (this should be easy, just stop funding the damn thing) and then attack France for undermining US foreign policy for some 20 years.

#8 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 11/3/2004 3:31:53 PM
God Bless President Bush!

Senator Kerry has earned a respected place in American political history - he did the right thing.

God Bless and keep our fighting men and women who sustain our right to vote at all.


#9 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/3/2004 4:35:20 PM
It's a horrible day in the US. 4 more years of hell. I guess I will be researching Hilary for 2008.

#10 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 11/3/2004 4:47:38 PM
You forget the saudi royal family which is friends with bush.

The Saudi royal family has expanded their ties to Washington since the 1950s. This is not something unique to Bush.

#11 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 11/3/2004 5:13:20 PM
I just hope that there is a willingness on both sides to work together after so many months of "us vs. them." I truly hope that Kerry's stated desire to unify the country is still held high by his supporters, and not just a goal that they would work for as long as it was on their terms (i.e., with Kerry as President). And on the Republican side, I hope that there is no gloating, that this is not taken as a "blank check" for any agenda, and that their desire to unify is just as strong, if not stronger....

#12 By 10748 (169.3.169.174) at 11/3/2004 6:57:45 PM
"ActiveWin.com supports John Kerry. "

This site must not be a "for profit venture"... it's ridiculous to associate yourself with a political party when you know you are going to piss off at least half of the populace...

#13 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 11/3/2004 7:28:54 PM
Bush Won. Four More Years. Deal With It.

Gloating isn't a good idea or good for the country. Be a graceful "winner."

#14 By 37 (68.185.170.174) at 11/3/2004 7:38:22 PM
#30 - Whether or not I or anyone else from AWIN support John Kerry or GWB has no bearing on the content of our site, nor is this site profitable.

#15 By 3653 (68.52.181.4) at 11/3/2004 9:28:43 PM
4 years later... and it appears sodablue was incorrect in his prognostications.

Sorry Soda. Better luck in '08.

#16 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 11/4/2004 4:39:26 AM
I think that so many in the press have missed the main force which decided this election:
A clear majority of Americans have values which are more consistent with President Bush's.

It was not and is not about any one thing else.

In reading this thread, I find myself opposite the values evidenced by most of those posting and sincerely concerned about the apparent lack of thoughtfulness and consideration exhibited within them.

For those whose candidate won, we must at least acknowledge the grace and courage it takes for any person to enter politics at any level on the opposite side.

For those whose candidate lost, it is time for them to celebrate the process and embrace the opportunity to transform their party and restore its broader relevance.

I sense our economy will become increasingly more granular. This will mean that more often than not, we will work directly with business owners and or become owners ourselves. I maintain that as this happens, most people will find that there is a lot more common ground between the parties than they think and most social issues that appear to divide us may be better left in private where they properly belong in the first place. What will be left are more common interests and values - beginning with mutual respect for ideals which deserve more consideration. We must remember, when we are overly critical of beliefs which are so central to people as individuals, that we are cutting very deeply. We have to be careful and recognize how truly special and frankly, fragile, democracy is. We must sustain a state worthy of affiliation or continue to witness people seeking associations outside our laws.

I read once, that forgiving was giving in advance of any expectation. I thought about how noble a creature it must be that is capable of such a sentiment. I wonder how much capacity resides within each of us and how to reach it.

#17 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at 11/4/2004 8:59:19 AM
Lketchum said

"I maintain that as this happens, most people will find that there is a lot more common ground between the parties than they think and most social issues that appear to divide us may be better left in private where they properly belong in the first place."

That's part of the problem though. These social "issues" are the cornerstone of the Democrats platform. To suggest that these issues should be a private matter will raise the hackles of many a Democrat.

"What will be left are more common interests and values - beginning with mutual respect for ideals which deserve more consideration."

With all of the intolerance, hatred and fear mongering I've seen from the Dems over the past 12 years for Republican ideals I don't ever see that happening.

Remember that the Democratic party of the 80s is gone. It's ranks have swelled with those members of the lunatic fringe. When a presidential candidate gets his talking points from Michael Moore there is definate cause for concern over the direction of the party.

#18 By 10748 (169.3.169.174) at 11/4/2004 2:18:50 PM
"#30 - Whether or not I or anyone else from AWIN support John Kerry or GWB has no bearing on the content of our site, nor is this site profitable. "

#34. I'm sure it doesn't change the point of view on the content, But I for one (and I'm sure there are many more) Don't appreciate mixing their news with politics. I have been an avid reader of this site... be sure that you will never get an ad click from me... "Shut up and post the news".

#19 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/4/2004 4:05:31 PM
#42 - Not everyone will be happy with our advertisements. It is impossible to please everyone. It is your choice whether or not you click through our ads.

#20 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at 11/5/2004 6:32:21 AM
There are many forms of leadership, but only one that has enduring strength - leading through the use of reverant power where leaders exhibit characteristics and behaviors that people seek to emulate and aspire to associate themselves with. There have been so many unfortunate statements uttered of late - few on either side being entirely true or supported by facts. The editorial focus has been about "being" right or wrong, rather that simple right and wrong.

President Bush has often "been" wrong, but he "is" right. The American people never expected him to "be" right all of the time - trying to "be" right is good enough. The American people do however, expect him to "do" what is right and that is a very different thing and the President does have great clarity about what is right and what is wrong and the courage to do the right thing regardless of the personal consequences. This is the essence of and the proper definition of character - and the basis for reverant leadership and its enduring power.

The American people, like all people are drawn to that more often than they are to any leader agreeing with them on any specific policy, or initiative. Senator Kerry's loss is not news - Democrat leaders have been losing regularly since 1992 for the same reasons. This is why the federalists formed the Republican party in the first place and chose another imperfect man who was also right, President Lincholn. This is why great American Presidents are so effective and why they emerge as statesmen in their second terms - they learn why the American people elect them and act accordingly. Watch how quickly President Bush unites the world around these ideals - that we are only as rich or prosperous as the poorest man among us; that murder is very bad and mass murder is much worse; that neither poverty, or war will be prevented unless America and its President are worthy of affiliation and reverance. These things will be realized by all people and our President will become worthy of that reverance - after all, we elected him and we shaped him and it is up to us to reflect that which we wish to see. "The unrelenting man in the mirror is looking back at each of us - not just our President."

#21 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 11/7/2004 6:40:16 PM
Buck Fush

Another dark day for America as the thugs steal another election.

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