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Time: 10:28 EST/15:28 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Brian Kvalheim

It’s been several months since my last article for ZDNet, though that wasn’t because I’ve been lying on a Corsican beach drinking gin and tonics (though if you’re looking for a place to do that, Calvi’s beach feels like you’re lying on a big pile of fine-milled flour). I edited a movie the filming of which I wrote about last summer, which though enjoyable, took about three months because I’m a perfectionist SOB. I’ve been working on an SMS/Text Messaging product for my software company, something that seems to be attracting the attention of investors (I’d tell you the name of that company, but then I’d have to eat you, and geeks are stringy). Last, I’m planning my move back to the United States, a momentous occasion after wandering Europe like a traveling minstrel for four and a half years. So, to put it mildly, I’ve been keeping busy.

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#1 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 8/30/2004 1:08:39 PM
I like Firefox a lot, but I still find that many sites I need to use are rendered incorrectly. I think the point he's making is an excellent one, although against the social cues that most in development and IT have blindly swallowed in the past few years--standards mean lowest common denominator. Standards have a place, and there are also places where they don't belong. The religious adherence to standards, no matter what, hurts those products.

#2 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 8/30/2004 2:23:43 PM
That's just the thing, though--these are perfectly usable websites, and there is a great number of them. Is it really anyone's 'fault'? Or does the stubborn insistence on strict standards-or-nothing approach hurt the further adoption of alternative browsers? I would even give some consideration to rolling out Firefox company-wide when it hits 1.0, but there's no way we could continue without those sites. It's easy to resort to the "well, if they don't work, they aren't written correctly" argument, but that's not going to make the sites work.

#3 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 8/30/2004 4:23:52 PM
0.9.3 of Mozilla Firefox doesn't work properly with Exchange 2003 OWA however.

#4 By 7797 (63.76.44.17) at 8/30/2004 4:44:29 PM
Microsoft Security Program Manager Stephen Toulouse runs Firefox:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.09/view.html?pg=3

#5 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 8/30/2004 4:47:21 PM
"Microsoft Security Program Manager Stephen Toulouse runs Firefox:"

Smart man. Any good developer will run their competing product and learn from it.

#6 By 7797 (63.76.44.17) at 8/30/2004 5:05:36 PM
"Smart man. Any good developer will run their competing product and learn from it."

Agreed :) Although you're assuming that to be why he is running it.

This post was edited by tgnb on Monday, August 30, 2004 at 17:06.

#7 By 21203 (4.5.32.137) at 8/31/2004 2:49:21 AM
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer..."

I'd say it was a fair guess.

#8 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 8/31/2004 9:13:25 AM
Because it is missing a gradient, how is it unusable?

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