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  Battling 'Spyware': Debate Intensifies on Controlling Deceptive Programs
Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: Microsoft | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

At a day-long Federal Trade Commission workshop Monday to increase understanding about deceptive software, Microsoft and other industry leaders detailed for U.S. regulators how they are working to reduce the threat of so-called "spyware."

These new and ongoing efforts to increase consumer education, develop anti-spyware technology and codify industry best-practices are more effective first responses than legislation to thwart the distributors of deceptive software, industry leaders said. In particular, Microsoft officials pointed to a new informational Website created by the company, and enhancements in the Microsoft Windows XP operating system that are designed to provide people better control of their PCs.

"The industry is pulling together to address the problem of deceptive software," Brian Arbogast, corporate vice president of the Identity, Mobile and Partner Services Group within Microsoft's MSN and Personal Services Division, said after the workshop. "The non-legislative solutions discussed today will provide people the tools and knowledge they need to better control their PCs and help create solid defenses against deceptive software."

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#1 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 4/21/2004 8:13:03 AM
This whole Spy/Adware thing has become a total pain in the ass.

I spent FIVE hours on one machine the other day. Over 180 exploits were found.

Symantec and McAfee should be chastized for allowing this to go on when their so-called Anti-Virus programs are running. This junk has simply become differently-named Viruses.

TL

#2 By 12071 (203.217.20.114) at 4/21/2004 10:04:45 AM
#5 You could have stopped at "People never read the Eula". Honestly, what percentage of users have ever read a full EULA? (Maybe 0.01%?) And out of that percentage, how many actually understood all the terms and conditions? (Maybe 0.00%?)

#3 By 6859 (206.156.242.36) at 4/22/2004 11:47:54 AM
One of the best things to help fight the tide of spyware is at this link

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

I use it, it works.

#4 By 2960 (68.101.35.196) at 4/23/2004 11:47:31 AM
"True, but much like viruses this wouldn't be such an issue if users would not click yes to every dialog box that pops up. The whole spyware thing is based on giving people something for nothing, and I don't really know too many people who believe anything is free, so why is it every pop up those same people see promising something for nothing compells them to click install? "

You are correct of course, but it doesn't matter.... It's there, it's costing unimaginable hours in support resources, and it isn't going away.

So it has to be dealt with.

This week alone, I spent in excess of 20 hours on just Spyware removal from users machines. It's out of hand, and it must be stopped.

The #1 complaint to Computer Manufacturers help desks is now Spyware. That's how bad it's become.

TL

#5 By 2960 (68.101.35.196) at 4/23/2004 11:53:03 AM
#8,

Good idea for us, but deploying this idea in a company having tens of thousands of users, in different networking environments, is not feasible.

I still say the only way to win this battle is with the tools that are already there. Symantec AntiVirus being the one that affects me. There is NO excuse for Symantec not taking care of this IMHO. These low-life Adware/Spyware writers/distributers are issuing nothing less than Viruses and Trojans that people don't yet call Viruses and Trojans.

Maybe if we quit calling it Spyware and calling it what it really is they will take notice.

The only hope of this happening is at the Corporate level. Home uses don't have enough of a voice. If Corporations start beating Symantec over the head (and I've seen some print that indicates this may have started), then we'll get the tools we need.

Until we do it's hour after hour after hour of support resources getting burned up.

TL

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