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| Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: InfoWorld | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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In January 2004, 94.8 percent of Web surfers used Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher, according to the Web analytics research company OneStat.com. Not me, though. For many months I’ve been using a Mozilla-based browser that can’t seem to settle on a name: Phoenix, Firebird, now Firefox. Identity crisis notwithstanding, it rocks. Trust me on this — I’m no knee-jerk open source bigot. During Mozilla’s long nuclear winter, I stuck with IE because I wasn’t willing to live with compromises. Then the tables turned. Suddenly, IE was the compromise I could not live with. Bugs didn’t get fixed. Standards support didn’t improve. New features didn’t appear. And the last vestige of cross-platform ambition evaporated when IE for the Mac was killed last year. The message is clear: Internet Explorer is dead in the water. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 3/22/2004 1:05:29 AM |
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I use Firefox exclusively now as well (aside from some development testing that I do with IE.)
Love it. |
| #2 By 11888 (64.230.74.127) at 3/22/2004 8:52:42 AM |
| monkeydog always has me right up until the end. then it always seems to fall apart. |
| #3 By 3465 (138.88.211.131) at 3/22/2004 10:13:17 AM |
| #3-your a funny MS sheep. |
| #4 By 3465 (138.88.211.131) at 3/22/2004 10:15:10 AM |
| Monkeydog-you are the man. I'm tired of clicking on every porn pic and saving them one at a time. Thanks. Hehe... |
| #5 By 135 (208.186.90.168) at 3/22/2004 10:46:47 AM |
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Hmm. That's great and all that, but I really couldn't care less about tabbed browsing. And standards support is a non-issue as long as IE is *the* standard. Cross-platform support is also a non-issue as long as Windows is *the* platform.
I think it's great that Netscape is finally offering some competition with a quality product rather than whining, but that doesn't change the fact that I really don't need it. |
| #6 By 10748 (169.3.169.209) at 3/22/2004 12:24:19 PM |
| While IE has not been brought up to date, (Come on Slackers... where is the tabbed browsing???) I'm not impressed by Firefox... I use Avant Browser that gives me pop up blocking, Google search and tabbed browsing all using the IE rendering engine... best of both worlds. I loaded up Firefox and said... Oooooo looks like a prettier version of Netscape 4 with the the same crappy usablilty... I'll pass. |
| #7 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at 3/22/2004 1:40:54 PM |
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gentelmen - i have to agree with those who have fallen for firefox. this is an outstanding program. i have both ie6 and firefox on my machine and i use firefox almost exclusively now. the only knock is the inability to play MSN videos in the browser.
long live innovation from whatever source! |
| #8 By 7797 (63.76.44.20) at 3/22/2004 2:16:14 PM |
| The most gratifying thing for me is that the "potential" I saw in mozilla years ago is finally being realized by the masses and even the old naysayers are converting to a mozilla based browser. |
| #9 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 3/22/2004 3:00:16 PM |
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I also use Firebird... great browser, although it has a way to go yet. I too was wondering "Why tabs?" but have found them to be quite useful... for example, the "Bookmark all tabs in a folder" feature is wonderful if you have several windows open and you install a driver or some piece of software and need to reboot--just bookmark them all with one click, then when you're up again, "Open in tabs" for the entire folder--slick! And opening new links in tabs that load underneath while you finish reading the current page is nifty as well. Not a necessity, but nifty.
On the other hand, I don't find it much faster than IE in actual rendering, and I do find it less stable at this point. Switching between tabs is much faster than going to different taskbar buttons in IE, and the pop-up blocker is more effective in that it seems to block at the outset, rather than one such as Google's, which still "waits" the same amount of time for the popup to appear, but only then blocks it. In that way it *is* faster. But, sometimes it will vanish altogether without warning, and other times it's quite pokey to bring back up after you've minimized it. Overall, I use it and IE about 50-50. One thing is for certain--you do have to keep IE around; some pages don't work so well in it, and some work but look awful. Hopefully it gives the IE team a kick in the butt. |
| #10 By 18033 (211.26.193.94) at 3/22/2004 4:40:22 PM |
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#15, Firefox is not netscape, its basically a major re-write, as the coders realised early on that so much of netscape was crap. All that has been re-written. So its not netscape. Web page devs have to code for IE, cos its most popular, but the way some stuff is implemented in IE is non-standard and thats why for the most part things dont work 100% outside of IE. If you code for mozilla/Firefox, everything works in every browser, but if you code for IE, it wont necessarily work in other browsers.
This post was edited by shed2069 on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 05:48. |
| #11 By 18033 (211.26.193.94) at 3/22/2004 4:50:14 PM |
| Oh and BTW, mouse gestures in Firefox totally rock, if you havent tried it, you have a surprise waiting!!!! Download the extension! :-) |
| #12 By 7797 (63.76.44.20) at 3/22/2004 5:25:15 PM |
| funny how so many people dont realize that ClosedStandards is being blatantly sarcastic in his comments :) |
| #13 By 18033 (211.26.193.94) at 3/22/2004 5:26:56 PM |
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Actually, youre completely wrong. I love Windows. I am a Windows user through and through. Im no open source advocate, Ive had a hot GF for years (so I dont need dates), I own my own house and I dont have a basement. (Neither does my mum.) But I know quality, and I know what I like. I used IE for years, but now I have a better alternative. I only need IE to view badly created web sites. This post was edited by shed2069 on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 at 05:52. |
| #14 By 10748 (169.3.169.209) at 3/22/2004 5:48:59 PM |
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If you are taking anything that Closedstandards says and believing it, you have got alot more to worry about than which browser you use... ClosedStandards is trying to be funny, but is just wasting our time... Shed2069, either you actually believe him and are really angry with him, or you have no concept of sarcasm.
"BTW, its only skanks (like your girlfriend and your mum), that use IE. 99% use IE cos 99% don't know how to make a choice. " That is a completely asinine sentence.. of course you know what is right for everyone, gimme a break, just let the individual decide which is better without you calling everyone that doesn't use the product that you use a skank. |
| #15 By 18033 (211.26.193.94) at 3/22/2004 6:30:41 PM |
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LOL@this thread.
#29, Dude Id love to post a pic, but I also love having my body in 1 piece, so no can do. :-) #30, yes I can tell CS is being sarcastic specially with a name like that. But I couldnt resist playing along, could I? :-) .....just relax. Also, problem with what u said is most individuals are too uninformed to make a proper choice. They need other people to make it for them. The skank comment was a joke. CS didnt get offended....He knows I love his mum and his GF, otherwise I wouldnt spend so much time with them. |
| #16 By 18033 (211.26.193.94) at 3/22/2004 9:14:46 PM |
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Im glad you understand. Yeah youre right, it cant display pictures that well. Everytime I look at pictures of your mum the browser freezes up. I know shes cold, but damn.
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| #17 By 3653 (209.149.57.116) at 3/22/2004 11:27:01 PM |
| http://www.myie2.com/ |
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