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  Microsoft Could Face Massive EU Fine
Time: 05:53 EST/10:53 GMT | News Source: Reuters | Posted By: Julien Jay

European antitrust enforcers may seek a massive fine from Microsoft Corp. and demand that it drop some features from its dominant Windows software, the Wall Street Journal reported in its online edition on Wednesday, citing a confidential European Commission document outlining its case. According to the report, the commission also alleged that Microsoft misled investigators and sought to obstruct the case. Any fine would be higher than it would have been if Microsoft cooperated, the document states, according to the report. The commission, the European Union's executive body, has authority to impose a fine of as much as 10 percent of Microsoft's annual revenue, or $2.5 billion, the report said.

The European investigation alleges that Microsoft illegally used its dominant Windows and Office software to muscle into the fast-growing market for corporate and Internet computer software, where it faces competition from Sun Microsystems Inc. , International Business Machines Corp. and others, according to the report. The newspaper said that the European investigation also alleges that Microsoft illegally sought to dominate music and video software for the Web. The commission alleged that Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft deliberately designed its Windows 2000 desktop software and companion products so that they wouldn't work well with rivals' software, the newspaper noted.

The investigation focused on the market for servers and alleged that Microsoft illegally bundled its Windows Media Player video software into Windows to shut out competition, the report said. The newspaper said the finding suggests the Europeans could seek changes in current and future software products to end the alleged violations. The commission also said bundling new features into Windows and Windows server software "has a chilling effect on innovation and competition," according to the report.

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#1 By 531 (12.23.165.36) at 10/10/2001 12:35:35 PM
I think Microsoft should just re-release Windows 3.0 as Microsoft Windows, Screw-the-EU Edition, and let them deal with that for a bit.

#2 By 531 (12.23.165.36) at 10/10/2001 1:58:13 PM
#11, the only problem with your argument is that if these novices don't know what RealPlayer or WinAMP are, they wouldn't be installing them in the first place... even if WMP wasn't there. You can't install a program, or give business to a company that you don't know exists, and don't seem to need...

#3 By 116 (66.68.169.74) at 10/10/2001 2:02:59 PM
I think the government saying what you can and can't do with software that you write sets a very bad precedent. As a software developer I don't think anyone should be able to tell me what I can and can't include in my software.

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/10/2001 5:29:08 PM
Why is taking out TCP/IP not an issue?

I've heard that as one of the prime examples in the past. That supposedly Win95 was evil because it broke Trumpet winsock.

TCP/IP was certainly marketed by a third party before Win95/NT came out. Are you saying that it is of such a value to consumers that it's ok. But Notepad isn't because it competes with SuperEdit?

Again, where do you draw the line?

Nobody stops to think that the reason Trumpet winsock broke was because it wasn't needed. Nobody stops to think that because you weren't required to install a third party solution to TCP/IP, that it became universal. Nobody stops to think because internet connectivity became universal in the OS that this opened up a multi billion dollar industry of opportunities.

Until you answer these questions and think about the consequences, your suggestion is really without any merit.


#5 By 116 (66.68.169.74) at 10/10/2001 11:54:27 PM
It does set a precedent. I make a piece of software that is so great that 90% of the people use it globablly. Then the government says ooopps sorry Mr. software programmer your software is too popular. You can't add any more features to your software.

This is not a good thing.

Will I ever write such a product? Probably not. But if I did I don't won't my competitors using the government to compete with me. End of story.

#6 By 116 (129.116.86.41) at 10/11/2001 8:44:15 AM
And?

If I decide that my program can only be installed if my DOS program was running then thats great. Its my software I can write it to do whatever I want it to. This is not a bad thing. So you would rather the government tell a software programmer what he can't write? Thats ridiculous.

#7 By 1124 (165.170.128.66) at 10/11/2001 9:46:14 AM
#32, Plus, at the time MS was not considered a monopoly(mid 80's).

You also act as if their are more examples but I noticed all you have is this weak (unproven) example.

#8 By 1124 (165.170.128.66) at 10/11/2001 1:37:36 PM
#35 I thought the courts found no problem with bundling(especially IE)?

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