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  Microsoft Tests Bevy Of Linux-Based Products For Competitive Analysis
Time: 13:33 EST/18:33 GMT | News Source: Yahoo News | Posted By: Alex Harris

In an effort to better understand its main source of competition, Microsoft has deployed Linux and other open-source software in a test center that's typically used by its business customers to experiment with Microsoft's own products. At its Enterprise Engineering Center in Redmond, Wash., Microsoft has installed the Linux operating system, Apache Web server, MySQL database, and Open LDAP directory-access software on Intel-based computers, according to Martin Taylor, the executive who recently assumed responsibility for Microsoft's strategy for competing against Linux.

The project was started in May with an initial goal of determining the effort involved in building the kind of open-source platform that might be found in a typical business environment. "It's an opportunity for learning for us," Taylor says. The goal is to understand "what can you do and how can you do it" using open-source software, he says. Next, Microsoft plans to create a comparable system using Windows and its own server products to see how Windows and Linux match up side-by-side in a variety of workload scenarios.

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#1 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 7/31/2003 3:35:55 PM
Simple. It's all about the benjamins.

You need to encourage adoption of SQL Server and IIS. Drop prices in half. Get SQL Server out into the ISP Hosting market on low cost plans. For $10-20/month I ought to be able to host a site with a SQL Server backend.

Don't promote Web Matrix... promote C# Standard edition, or VS.NET. Although fix C# Standard so it has wizards to create DLL assemblies.

OFfer a bundle to hobbyists:
Windows XP Professional
Windows Server 2003 Standard
SQL Server 2000(or MSDE with the SQL Server utilities, whatever)
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional(or C# Standard)
Office XP

Sell it for $300 as an annual subscription with MSDN updates.

It's not just about getting the software into students hands, it is about getting into professionals hands. I have an MSDN subscription, but only because I'm committed and because I cheated.(I got a grey market OEM price) If I hadn't cheated, I wouldn't have it and that doesn't hurt me, it hurts Microsoft.

If Microsoft doesn't do something like this, especially now with the advent of their anti-piracy serial #'s, they're going to lose mindshare. That's reality, any attempt at attracting developers which doesn't come close to going this far is just plain stupid and short sighted greed thinking.

#2 By 20 (66.179.144.114) at 7/31/2003 5:45:51 PM
Oh, oops, except Samba found problems in MS' implementation of CIFS and MS fixed them.

Sorry. Please try again.

#3 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 8/1/2003 12:44:22 AM
reddsoda - Yes, I know about the Action Pack. Basically that's what I am suggesting... take that, bundle it with VS.NET and advertise the bloody hell out of it. It's not enough to be doing online demos of VS.NET, they've got to get these tools into the hands of people at home!

But also, they've got to get rid of Access in the ISP hosting world. Access is bloody terrible, it just gives MS a bad name because it's overused.

#4 By 931 (66.156.3.21) at 8/1/2003 3:09:22 AM
sodablue your on the money with that concept..

Windows Server 2003 Standard
SQL Server 2000 standard
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional(or C# Standard)
Office XP pro

sell if for 395$ with a coupon for buying msdn standard for a few hundred a year (or whatever.. been universal so long i dont even know the other level)

would sell like hotcakes.


what ms need to do with the asp sql licencing which is available is to remove the restriction that only one customer can use the sql server. ie.. offer a it up in like a per user id type thing like they do with exchange.

2cents

#5 By 135 (208.186.90.91) at 8/1/2003 6:54:34 PM
cba-3.14 - "looks like it doesn't allow you to inpliment a CIFS compliant product under the GPL. So is it paranoid to think that Microsoft doesn't want Samba around, a CIFS implimentation under the GPL? "

This might be hard for you to accept, but there are other OSS licenses out there besides the GPL.

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