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  Q&A: Windows Server 2003 kernel guru
Time: 10:56 EST/15:56 GMT | News Source: ZDNet UK | Posted By: Bill Roach

At the Microsoft Server 2003 launch in London this week, ZDNet interviewed Rob Short, the vice-president of Windows Core Technology. Responsible for the overall engineering and management of the Windows kernel, Short talked about what makes Server 2003 different from previous Windows products, where Unix and Linux still have the advantage, hackers, application compatibility, performance and security.

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#1 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 4/25/2003 1:34:24 PM
"Why is there no command line only version?
We're looking longer term to see what can be done, looking at the layers and what's available at each layer and how do we make it much closer to the thing the Linux guys have -- having only the pieces you want running. That's something Linux has that's ahead of us, but we're looking at it. We will have a command line-only version, but whether it'll have all the features in is another matter. A lot of the tools depend on having the graphical interface. Printing, for example, requires all the graphics subsystems because we have the "what you see is what you get" model. You need to have the whole of the display stuff to render it. It's a very tangled subsystem."

In one interview Balmer talks about MS Innovating more than Linux and this guy talks about "how do we make it much closer to the thing the Linux guys have".

"We've built a patch mechanism in 2003 that will be shipped externally. We'll be able to patch probably two thirds of the components without shutting the system down. That's an area where the Unix guys are ahead of us, because of the way they do redirection -- they can patch a file and then change the symbolic link. That's an area where we've got a problem, and we'll fix it in the near future when possible."

This is the best news i've heard in a long time although i must say its about $#(*(*&$ing time they fixed this.

This post was edited by tgnb on Friday, April 25, 2003 at 13:41.

#2 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at 4/25/2003 6:11:50 PM
A user base less concerned with near-religious zealotry than something that works for the task(s) at hand.

#3 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/25/2003 7:39:08 PM
bluvg:

"A user base less concerned with near-religious zealotry than something that works for the task(s) at hand."

Hmm.. lets see:

============================================

The sodablue Hall of Shame:

"Linux which is motivated entirely from hatred of Microsoft products"

"OSS development is cheaper... partly true, but since it's unreliable and slower you position yourself with a competitive disadvantage."

"The large problem is really that most open source zealots do not have any understanding of the computer world."

#4 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/25/2003 9:07:45 PM
JaggedFlame:

I never assumed he represents the entire userbase for microsoft. He is however a very vocal part in that userbase. And I believe with some of the statements he makes some (if not many) other people in the ms userbase (this includes me) wish he wasn't a part of it (or would at least keep his ridiculous comments to himself).

Just like those loud OSS zealots make the linux community look bad, his comments have the same effect on the ms userbase.

On another note, :)

I wonder how I am able to be part of the userbase for both Microsoft and Open Source software without beating myself up constantly.

This post was edited by tgnb on Friday, April 25, 2003 at 21:17.

#5 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/26/2003 12:07:59 AM
JaggedFlame:

"I don't wish he would keep his comments to himself, because they are valid, regardless of whether or not you agree with them."

So then these comments below are valid?

==============

The sodablue Hall of Shame:

"Linux which is motivated entirely from hatred of Microsoft products"

"OSS development is cheaper... partly true, but since it's unreliable and slower you position yourself with a competitive disadvantage."

"The large problem is really that most open source zealots do not have any understanding of the computer world."

#6 By 61 (65.32.171.144) at 4/26/2003 1:49:11 AM
I really like this guy....

He lays it all out there, not afraid to admit where other platforms have an advantage over his own.

Very nice change from the standard we are better than you campaign that every company does via it's marketing department, CEO, chairmen, et. al.

#7 By 61 (65.32.171.144) at 4/26/2003 1:50:57 AM
By the way, could we at LEAST try to stay on topic... this is getting way out of hand, you all need to turn your egos down for a quite a bit.

#8 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 4/26/2003 11:43:21 AM
tgnb - Want to be credible... address the points.

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