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  Customers of Siebel Systems Experience Lower Total Cost of Ownership By Deploying CRM Solutions on Microsoft SQL Server 2000
Time: 12:12 EST/17:12 GMT | News Source: Microsoft Press Release | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

Microsoft Corp. today announced that a new survey by NerveWire Inc. shows customers of Siebel Systems Inc. can earn a 248 percent return on investment (ROI) over 11 months by deploying Siebel applications on Microsoft® SQL Server (TM) 2000, compared with other competing solutions.

NerveWire conducted a study of 12 companies using Siebel CRM applications running SQL Server 2000 or a database from a leading competitor (see http://www.microsoft.com/sql/ for more study information). The study compared the costs of migrating, supporting and maintaining the SQL Server environment versus the cost of continuing with the competing data management system. NerveWire concluded that customers migrating to SQL Server 2000 can achieve a 248 percent ROI and a payback period of 11 months. The net present value for the migration project was $387,311.

The study also found that customers could expect reduced hardware, software and IT support costs. For example, average server hardware costs were 27 percent lower for customers of SQL Server, and lower software licensing and maintenance contracts accounted for 6.8 percent of the total savings of migrating to SQL Server.

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#1 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 4/18/2003 1:15:45 PM
I wonder if Siebel supports mySQL?

#2 By 20 (67.9.179.51) at 4/18/2003 3:01:47 PM
Headline: "From the Things-Anyone-With-Common-Sense-Knows department..."

#1: Of course! Everyone knows that you can build highly scalable, enterprise applications on a non-relational open source database that has trouble handling more than 50-100 simultaneous users :)

#3 By 3653 (209.149.57.116) at 4/19/2003 12:50:12 AM
daz - 100 users at the same time? Not a chance.

#4 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 4/19/2003 1:53:16 AM
Guys, MySQL's primary fault is not its speed (although it certainly can't compete with Oracle, DB2, or SQL Server)... it's the complete lack of relational integrity and transactions.

A database without relational integrity or transcations is simply not a player in the enterprise market. Period.

If anybody tells you different, they're either stupid or lying.

(With the exception of some hierarchial databases, like LDAP... of course, but this is completely different.)

Oh, and MySQL also doesn't support views, sprocs, triggers, or sub-queries. In summary, MySQL is a joke.

This post was edited by RMD on Saturday, April 19, 2003 at 01:55.

#5 By 20 (67.9.179.51) at 4/19/2003 3:33:42 AM
#3: no, I was pretty fair, actually, considering MySQL is a joke as far as database servers go.

The designers even had papers on their web site talking about why relational databases were bad and how you can get around the lack of constraint checking with some creative SQL. It was a big joke, actually. Well, they were serious, but no one else was.

For a single table, with just insert/update/select/delete, for a single user, MySQL, if properly tuned after a couple hours of wasted effort, CAN be markedly fast. However, those limitations are quite high and impractical in the real world where most people live. This makes MySQL pretty worthless.

#6 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 4/19/2003 4:02:03 PM
FUD - "The article does not even mention MySQL. Have you nothing better to do than start a flame war? "

Not particularly.

#7 By 6253 (12.237.219.240) at 4/19/2003 5:24:10 PM
> MySQL's InnoDB and BDB table types support transactions.

MySQL's "support" for transactions is a facade. This is like saying Microsoft Access supports terabyte databases just because it can front-end Oracle or SQL Server. MySQL doesn't natively support real transactions and its designers have made abundantly clear that they don't care much for ACID principles. In effect, they like the SQL language only as much as Microsoft likes the Java language. To hell with the relational database platform that the rest of the world has spent decades evolving.

MySQL is great if your database needs would be met by the SQL-enabled equivalent of Windows 3.1 Cardfile. If not, get real and get a real database.

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