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| Time: 14:30 EST/19:30 GMT | News Source: OS News | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Obviously the Windows family of OS's is going to factor in here. There's been arguably more work done on the Windows platform than on any other modern Operating System, and it shows! Windows owns the world, as far as consumer Operating Systems go, and they're very well known, so without further ado, here's some things I do and don't like about Windows (oh, and by the way, unless noted, most of the Windows references refer specifically to Windows XP âMany of the issues I will note are present in other Windows versions as well, but since XP's the latest Windows version, this is the one we will focus on) | ||
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| #1 By 8273 (131.107.3.74) at 4/8/2003 4:55:51 PM |
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How to tell that he is lying:
After a few months of experimenting and evaluating, in addition to irritating the hell out of my girlfriend ("I just don't understand why you're trying all of these different versions if they're all Linux!"), I'd have to say that Vector Linux takes the cake! Hmmmm, a Linux user irritating his girlfriend. Notice the conflicting terms? I could understand if she was a linux geek also, but from that sentence it is obvious she is not. |
| #2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 4/8/2003 4:56:42 PM |
| He should buy a BMW and enjoy the road! |
| #3 By 7390 (198.246.16.251) at 4/8/2003 4:57:51 PM |
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Rather than have a kernel that runs on everything, it would be nice to strip out the things that don't apply to my setup and optimize it for the hardware I do have. On the other hand, this is one of Linux's strong points!
And leave software developers in the dark as to what kind of system their apps will run on! Oh it works greats on config A,C and D but not B and E. I am sure that mom and pop are crying for this functionality on Windows. |
| #4 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 4/8/2003 6:32:57 PM |
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I can honestly say I have had a completely different experiense with XP's stability. I have only had a bluescreen when I was using old NVidia drivers for my twinview. After I got those taken care of I haven't had a single Blue Screen or lockup that I could attribute to XP. Once my coworker accidently kicked the crap out of my computer and it obviously rocked my HD and then the screen was frozen. Rebooted and had no problems.
If you are having bluescreens it is almost always because of a poor critical device driver. I also don't have a problem with switching between programs and having it bog down. I run at least 7 programs at once all day for weeks if not months at a time. I only lock my computer at night when I leave my office but I leave everything running. The only time there is any lagging is if I have alot of skinned apps open and they are having a problem repainting while I'm compiling or installing something. Oh and I'm on a PIII gig with 512 ram w/2 screens... nothing fancy. |
| #5 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/8/2003 7:19:19 PM |
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sodablue: Too bad that the BMW he is going to enjoy the road with will be running its iDrive onboard computer on embedded linux!
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2132851,00.html |
| #6 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/8/2003 8:48:56 PM |
| steven1832: Thanks for sharing this very informative bit of information with us. You have truly made a breakthrough point. |
| #7 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/8/2003 8:49:18 PM |
| twice |
| #8 By 135 (208.50.204.91) at 4/8/2003 9:31:52 PM |
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tgnb - It's possible, but highly unlikely.
Besides, to enjoy the road requires a 3-series... the 5's and 7's are too slushy! |
| #9 By 7797 (64.105.197.82) at 4/8/2003 9:56:45 PM |
| sodablue: excellent comeback! |
| #10 By 37 (66.82.20.150) at 4/9/2003 8:58:19 AM |
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In regards to the Playstation 3: Embedded Linux's native ability to multi-task and handle multiple users lends itself to networked gaming. Linux consoles with a hard drive can store downloaded games, allowing for subscription-based usage, he said.
<sarcasm>Wow, now THERE is an original idea </sarcasm> Imitation is...... ;-) |
| #11 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 4/9/2003 10:46:42 AM |
| Yah, the XBox, now THERE is a really original idea. |
| #12 By 37 (66.82.20.150) at 4/9/2003 12:30:03 PM |
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I would say the Xbox is more so than the PS2. The Xbox is
First game console of the big three to support a built in hard drive First game console of the big three to support Online Gaming with Broadband Networking First game console of the big three to have an embedded pc platform First game console of the big three to have music burning for personalized music in games First game console of the big three to support downloadable content First game console of the big three to support 4 game joystick ports First game console of the big three to use USB Technology for joystick ports First game console of the big three to use all DVD format for gaming First game console of the big three to have more games per person per console being used First game console of the big three to have more online time per person than any other First game console of the big three to have built in broadband/online hardware First game console of the big three to have built in support for future product subscriptions First game console of the big three to sell almost 10 million units in it's first debut (compared to PS1's debut) in a year Dare I continue? Yah, the Playstation, now THERE is a really original idea (that is, after Atari, Intellivision, ColecoVision, Pong...) need I say more. |
| #13 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 4/9/2003 12:39:06 PM |
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In other words, the XBox basically imitates what a PC user could do for years! This post was edited by tgnb on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 12:53. |
| #14 By 37 (66.82.20.150) at 4/9/2003 2:18:34 PM |
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tgnb,
Well, if that was all there was to it, then yes. But fortunately for Microsoft and the Xbox users, that is not the case. Xbox advantage: 1. No boot up time 2. No PC literacy required 3. No installing operating systems 4. No device driver issues 5. No hardware issues 6. No user upgrades 7. A consistent platform for developers to target (so more emphasis on gameplay and not coding for an unknown or random spec PC) 8. Cheap (commodity consumer good pricing) (you cannot build a reasonable spec PC for sub $200) 9. Easy & Instant connection to online gaming service 10. 4 person support on stand alone box 11. 4 mulitiscreen support Next! ;-) |
| #15 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 4/9/2003 3:31:48 PM |
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1. No boot up time
My pc is on 24/7 no bootup time there either. No XBOX Advantage 2. No PC literacy required Everyone knows nowadays how to operate PC at least to the level of installing and running a game. Anyway some of the features in the XBox you mentioned require some PC-like knowledge. 3. No installing operating systems When you buy a computer you dont need to install an OS either. 4. No device driver issues Most people with driver issues are techie like folks trying out beta drivers etc 5. No hardware issues Neither does that PC you bought with the preinstalled OS 6. No user upgrades This is a disadvantage not an advantage 7. A consistent platform for developers to target (so more emphasis on gameplay and not coding for an unknown or random spec PC) A develper wants to sell their game to more than just XBox users so they have to develop for the other platforms too if they wanna reach a wider audience. 8. Cheap (commodity consumer good pricing) (you cannot build a reasonable spec PC for sub $200) Most people already have a PC, so buying an XBox would only cost them extra. 9. Easy & Instant connection to online gaming service WTF I've been playing "easy and instant" online games for years without the need for some online gaming service. 10. 4 person support on stand alone box You have your first valid point. 11. 4 mulitiscreen support and this is an advantage over the PC how? NEEEEXT!! |
| #16 By 37 (66.82.20.150) at 4/9/2003 4:10:54 PM |
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1. No boot up time
My pc is on 24/7 no bootup time there either. No XBOX Advantage 1a. Not everyone that has a pc has their system turned on 24/7. Advantage - Xbox 2. No PC literacy required Everyone knows nowadays how to operate PC at least to the level of installing and running a game. Anyway some of the features in the XBox you mentioned require some PC-like knowledge. 2a. No, you are wrong. Not everyone nowadays knows how to operate a pc. There is ZERO knowledge of pc's required to run an xbox or go live. No PC interaction is required at all. In fact, no PC is needed at all for the Xbox or to go live. Zero. Advantage - Xbox 3. No installing operating systems When you buy a computer you dont need to install an OS either. 3a. Wrong. Thousands of computers are purchased everyday without an OS. Advantage - Xbox 4. No device driver issues Most people with driver issues are techie like folks trying out beta drivers etc 4a. Wrong! LOL. That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard! Advantage - Xbox 5. No hardware issues Neither does that PC you bought with the preinstalled OS 5a. Wrong! LOL. If that were the case, we wouldn't need technical support for PC's and the hardware, even on preinstalled OS's! ROFL. Where do you come up with this garbage? Advantage - Xbox 6. No user upgrades This is a disadvantage not an advantage 6a. No, this is an advantage. The user doesn't have to worry about upgrading, security patches, incompatibilities, buying new OS's, updating drivers, etc. Step AWAY from the crack pipe. Advantage - Xbox 7. A consistent platform for developers to target (so more emphasis on gameplay and not coding for an unknown or random spec PC) A develper wants to sell their game to more than just XBox users so they have to develop for the other platforms too if they wanna reach a wider audience. 7a. Very good! You get a cookie today! A developer, when designing for an Xbox game, doesn't have to worry about anything related to the OS or hardware because they have the exact specs for all 10 million owners of the Xbox. When designing their games for the PC, it's much more difficult, and bugs and patches are often required, unlike the Xbox, in order to be compatible with all the different pc's they are unable to test the product on. Advantage - Xbox 8. Cheap (commodity consumer good pricing) (you cannot build a reasonable spec PC for sub $200) Most people already have a PC, so buying an XBox would only cost them extra. 8a. No they don't. ALOT of people do, but not MOST. And many that do are in most cases parents who don't necessarily want their kids on the computer to play games. Advantage - Xbox 9. Easy & Instant connection to online gaming service WTF I've been playing "easy and instant" online games for years without the need for some online gaming service. 9a. WTF? Last time I looked, plugging in my xbox to the cable modem that is behind my tv was much easier than setting up a new pc, registering, installing, setup, restarting, configuring network connection in many cases, etc. Xbox is MUCH easier. Advantage - Xbox 10. 4 person support on stand alone box You have your first valid point. 10a. Go back and read my others. Advantage - Xbox 11. 4 mulitiscreen support and this is an advantage over the PC how? 11a. You can have four people play on the same screen at the same time Advantage - Xbox Chaching! Nexxxxxxxxxt! |
| #17 By 7797 (63.76.44.252) at 4/9/2003 4:41:37 PM |
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1a. Not everyone that has a pc has their system turned on 24/7
The point is a PC is used for more than just gaming and therefore chances are that you don't have to boot it up everytime you wanna play a game. 2a. No, you are wrong. Not everyone nowadays knows how to operate a pc. There is ZERO knowledge of pc's required to run an xbox or go live. No PC interaction is required at all. In fact, no PC is needed at all for the Xbox or to go live. Zero. That is wrong. If you dont know any networking and dont happen to have dhcp you HAVE to have PC knowledge. Also burning CD's requires SOME PC related knowledge. The line between knowing how to operate a game console and how to use a pc are being blurred anyway. 3a. Wrong. Thousands of computers are purchased everyday without an OS. But MOST are sold WITH an OS. Users who buy an OS less pc have PC knowlege and arent afraid to install an OS. Most computers come with an OS just like the XBox. 4a. Wrong! LOL. That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard! Maybe funny to you, but very true. 5a. Wrong! LOL. If that were the case, we wouldn't need technical support for PC's and the hardware, even on preinstalled OS's! ROFL. Where do you come up with this garbage? So are you saying that there are no XBox hardware defaults? Are you saying there is no tech support for the XBox? What are you smoking? 6a. No, this is an advantage. The user doesn't have to worry about upgrading, security patches, incompatibilities, buying new OS's, updating drivers, etc. Step AWAY from the crack pipe. This is a disadvantage. I for one am still happy everytime i can download an update for my Car MP3 player, adding new functionality and options. People like upgrading to get new functionality. If you can't upgrade then any mistakes in the XBox will be there for LIFE.. unless the XBox unlike any other device is 100% flawless and perfect. So if youre playing online on your XBox and a security flaw is found, it cant be fixed since its not upgradable? how is that an advantage? 7a. Very good! You get a cookie today! A developer, when designing for an Xbox game, doesn't have to worry about anything related to the OS or hardware because they have the exact specs for all 10 million owners of the Xbox. When designing their games for the PC, it's much more difficult, and bugs and patches are often required, unlike the Xbox, in order to be compatible with all the different pc's they are unable to test the product on. You obviously never took part in any kind of development process. 8a. No they don't. ALOT of people do, but not MOST. And many that do are in most cases parents who don't necessarily want their kids on the computer to play games. Less people own an XBox than a computer. 9a. WTF? Last time I looked, plugging in my xbox to the cable modem that is behind my tv was much easier than setting up a new pc, registering, installing, setup, restarting, configuring network connection in many cases, etc. Xbox is MUCH easier. Maybe last time you used a computer was in 1984. Last time i checked, you can buy a pc from dell, boot up, plug it into the cable modem be online and do 1000% more than an xbox will do for you. Connecting to the internet isnt hard. I'd say a large percentage of the people who buy a pc nowadays are smart enough to connect it to the net without any huge problems. 10a. Go back and read my others. I did.. still not valid :) 11a. You can have four people play on the same screen at the same time And you can't do this on a PC? |
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